LMPX.COM :: Christopher Jones :: Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

From: Christopher Jones Date: Thu Feb 14 14:33:38 2008

Subject: Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
 >> We'd support this. From my last set discussions internally, we'd need
 >> the spec to be under CLA.
 >
 > Ok, thats a problem. I do not see much of a chance to convince anyone on
 > php.net to do this.

What other extensions have been written using an external (to PHP)
specification?

 > But lets say its not under a CLA, how is this different than you
 > guys using the ZE2 API? Is it just because Oracle considers anything
 > closer to RDBMS to be more of a risk? If we say that we do not
 > expect much direct collaboration at all from any of the concerned
 > vendors, is that still an issue?

Using is different to contributing to a specification.  And
collaborating is different to working individually.  (And the more
that our legal team understood about PHP, the less they liked that
management had already approved me contributing...)

I think it's an issue for PHP if not all the data access providers can
contribute.

 >> From my point of view, the interesting crux of the PDO discussions is
 >> that the development and release _process_ is the key factor in
 >> determining what risk (and hence need for CLA's and licenses) exists.
 >
 > Right. The base line is that anyone can setup a PEAR channel and
 > distribute PHP or C code on their own infrastructure. We are looking if
 > there is a way to more closely integrate you guys into the php.net
 > infrastructure.

Installation of PHP continues to be the number one barrier to entry
issue I see, despite the maturation of various *AMP distros, Zend
Core, and other prebuilt stacks.  Reducing the barrier is the key
reason to have PDO and its drivers integrated with PHP to a high
level.  It also makes sense to have a central place for documentation
and bug reports.

Chris

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From:	Christopher Jones	Date:	Thu Feb 14 14:33:38 2008
Subject:	Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2