Re: Federal judge rules Alabama city must allow gay pride float at Christmas parade

Josh Rosenbluth <[email protected]> Wed, 11 Dec 2024 13:29:43 -0800
Newsgroups alt.law-enforcement.corruption,alabama.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,sac.politics,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics.homosexuality
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 12/11/2024 11:02 AM, Scout wrote:
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> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 12/10/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and 
>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On 12/10/2024 7:06 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and 
>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> On 12/9/2024 8:20 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and 
>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "useapen" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PRATTVILLE, Ala. -- A federal judge has ordered an Alabama city 
>>>>>>>> to allow
>>>>>>>> an LGBTQ+ pride group to participate in the city's Christmas 
>>>>>>>> parade on
>>>>>>>> Friday, after the mayor initially blocked the group from the 
>>>>>>>> annual event
>>>>>>>> citing unspecified “safety concerns.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> U.S. District Judge R. Austin Huffaker Jr. ruled that the City of
>>>>>>>> Prattville violated Prattville Pride's First Amendment right to 
>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>> speech and 14th Amendment right to equal protection under the 
>>>>>>>> law when it
>>>>>>>> banned the group from running a float in the annual Christmas 
>>>>>>>> parade one
>>>>>>>> day before the event was set to take place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “The City removed Prattville Pride from the parade based on its 
>>>>>>>> belief
>>>>>>>> that certain members of the public who oppose Prattville Pride, 
>>>>>>>> and what
>>>>>>>> is stands for, would react in a disruptive way. But 
>>>>>>>> discrimination based
>>>>>>>> on a message’s content 'cannot be tolerated under the First 
>>>>>>>> Amendment,' ”
>>>>>>>> Huffaker wrote in his opinion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ruling required the city to provide at least two police 
>>>>>>>> officers to
>>>>>>>> escort the float throughout the parade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sorry, but unless ALL floats get an escort of 2 police officers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, scooter. The other floats and parade entries are not at risk 
>>>>>> of being attacked
>>>>>
>>>>> How would you know which floats are at risk?
>>>>
>>>> Because you haven't threatened violence against them, scooter.
>>>
>>> Then the Pride float has no need for any officers because I've not 
>>> threatened violence against them.
>>
>> Your fellow Nazis have, scooter, so yes, "you" have threatened that 
>> float.
> 
> So you lied when you asserted that I threatened them. As far as any 
> other threats, police are not personal body guards. They have no 
> obligation to protect any specific person or group as their obligation 
> is to the community as a whole. Therefore unless the treats can be show 
> to be creditable then they have no justification to police protection. 
> Further if they had creditable evidence of such threats then the police 
> could address them. Since the police have not arrested them, it would 
> appear that no such threats exist.
> 
> So, no, without proof that a significant threat exists, the police 
> should not give preference to any group or float.
> 
> Now, if they are truly concerned, I hear that some police officers will 
> moonlight as private security for additional pay.
> 
> Until then. no reason has been presented why this float and ONLY this 
> float is worthy of such special protection.

It was the city that claimed the Pride float might be threatened and 
used that possibility as a justification for refusing their 
participation. So given that argument, the city must allow them to 
participate and protect them. They could have just allowed them to 
participate in the first place and been under no obligation to provide 
protection absent a threat.

Bottom line: the city made its bed and now it must sleep in it.