Re: Stopping the boats

Citizen Smith wrote:
> 
> John Williamson wrote:
> > 
> > On 08/06/2024 14:38, Citizen Smith wrote:
> > > Mike Fleming wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 04/06/2024 21:05, Citizen Smith wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> It seems to the very naive me that if the French would just take them back then
> > >>> the trafficking would stop in a heartbeat because there'd be no point in it. Am
> > >>> I missing something?  Is this not being suggested anywhere because the French
> > >>> don't want them back and we don't want to upset them?
> > >>
> > >> It used to be that they did take them back because the UK was part of
> > >> the Dublin Agreement which said they could be taken back. Since a load
> > >> of idiots voted for Brexit, the UK is no longer in the Dublin agreement,
> > >> so as any asylum seekers crossing in boats could no longer be sent back
> > >> to France, all of a sudden that's how they started coming over. A vote
> > >> for Brexit was a vote for small boats.
> > >
> > > Just wondering, did you know this could happen in the run up to Brexit
> > > referendum? It's just I don't remember anyone saying anything about it.
> > >
> > It depended who was telling you the lies about it.
> 
> All politicians speak with forked tongue. Despite that I listened to as many of 
> the debates as I could and I'm pretty sure no one said anything about people in 
> dinghies.
> 
> > Not specifically, but the talk was of a complete break with Europe. (No 
> > deal is better than a bad deal) Or maybe an agreement that gave us very 
> > nearly the same deal as we already had, minus the bad bits (See also the 
> > Norway deal). The "no deal" we ended up with took us out of all the 
> > treaties and agreements we'd spent 40 years setting up. Among others, 
> > the banks were furious, as it meant relevant staff now all had to have 
> > local qualifications in every country they did business in.
> 
> People can only vote on the facts they know and as they weren't given those 
> facts...
> 
> > The Dublin agreement lets EU countries return undocumented people back 
> > to their last departure point without any formalities.
> 
> That's another thing, I can't recall lots of stowaways in freight lorries being 
> returned to France when we had the Dublin agreement, either.
>  
> > >> But never mind, as long as the twenty
> > >> or thirty thousand poor bastards risking drowning by crossing the
> > >> Channel can be blamed for the collapse of the NHS, the shortage of
> > >> housing, the crumbling schools, the cost of living crisis, etc, then
> > >> politicians will want them coming in as a distraction.
> > >
> > > They are being blamed for all that? Wow.
> > >
> > They are. There are many who believe that they are clogging up the NHS 
> > waiting lists. Currently they seem to be taking up over 5 million beds. 
> > Nothing to do with Government policies increasing the list from about 2 
> > million to about 7 million over the last 14 years. Yeah, right.
> > 
> > They are also claiming benefits while simultaneously stealing all the jobs.
> 
> OK, I'll bite, which politician is saying this?
> 
> I've only seen some of the poor people arriving in inflatable dinghies being 
> blamed for other piffling things like rape and knife attacks.
> 
> BTW, prior to Brexit I was for a time an NHS admin in east London. Absolutely 
> without exaggerating well over 90 percent of the patients were legal 
> immigrants, mainly from Europe. I think that that played a bit part in the way 
> some voted in the referendum. They wanted out of Schengen.

That should be big part, not bit part. Stoopid spel chucker didn't spot it coz 
it's spelt rite.