Re: Bagels

On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 10:41:19 +0100, Citizen Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Julian Macassey wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 11:14:23 +0100, Citizen Smith
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > Getting on for forty years ago I used to service the fridges in
>> > a bagel shop in Brick Lane, east London. The lane was mainly a
>> > Jewish area then.
>> 
>> 	Historically, the East End was where immigrants settled,

> Yes, that was true.  Before the Jews it was the Huguenots. Since
> most of the Jewish peeps have moved on it is mainly Bangladeshi
> with a smattering of bent over woke hipsters. The Bangladeshis
> have been there since the late 1980s and they ain't going
> anywhere.


	I have noticed that the East End is infested with
hipsters. 

	The Bangladeshis have helped improve the cuisine of
Britain. 

	You could consider chicken tikka masala the British
national dish.

>> Besides bagels, they gave us talents like Marty Feldman, Manny
>> Shinwell, Sir John Edward Cohen, etc. I could fill pages with the
>> names of East End Jewish immigrants and their children that came
>> out of the impoverished East End and made Britain a better place,
>
> Did you know you come across as rather patronising?

	Really? Well I have nothing but admiration for the
inhabitants of the East End. My grandfather was a vicar in Bethnal
Green and my father was somewhat fluent in rhyming slang. 

>
>> 	There are still a couple of bagel shops on Brick Lane,
>
> OK, I only know of one at the north end of the lane nearest
> Columbia Road.
>
>> alas they don't sell bialys.
>
> I had to google what that is. I don't think they ever sold them,
> it's a bagel bakery. The refrigeration service company I worked
> for way back then was Jewish owned and run and so a lot of their
> customers were Jewish establishments.

	In the New York area, many bagel shops also sell bialys. I
prefer a bialy over a bagel. Bagels have a greater acceptence,
world wide.

>> 	While we reel from the thuggish riots in England, remember
>> the The Battle of Cable Street in the East End when Jewish
>> immigrants confronted Fascists.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cable_Street
>
> Blimey, having seen that plaque a million times I had no idea what it was 
> abawt. Fanks fer da edukashun, geezer.

	There is the 43 group, and Vidal Sassoon of haircut fame:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidal_Sassoon
+ At the age of 17, although he had been too young to serve in World
+ War II, he became the youngest member of the 43 Group, a Jewish
+ veterans' underground organisation founded by Morris Beckman which
+ broke up fascist meetings in East London[14][15] to prevent Sir
+ Oswald Mosley's movement from spreading "messages of hatred" in
+ the period following World War II.[14]
+ 
+ In 1948, at the age of 20, he joined the Palmach (which shortly
+ afterwards was integrated into the Israel Defense Forces) and
+ fought in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, which began after Israel
+ declared statehood.[15][16] Sassoon arrived in Mandatory Palestine
+ in April 1948, a month before Israeli independence. He fought in
+ the Negev against the Egyptian Army.[17] During an interview, he
+ described the year he spent training with the Israelis as "the
+ best year of my life", and recalled how he felt: 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/43_Group


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