Re: Drugs Ought To Be Marketed As Medicine And Sold Out Of Sight On Demand - At The Likes Of Pharmacies, With All Kinds Of Labeling

Pluted Pup <[email protected]> Tue, 21 Apr 2026 23:54:56 -0700
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On 10/31/24 10:33 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
>> Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine and sold out of sight on demand,
>> at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.

Counter-proposal: how about prosecuting
anyone who supplies a drug under the more
punitive laws against drug dealing?  Someone
who gives drugs to a "friend", or provides
drugs to a lover, or as a payment for services
rendered certainly merits the definition of a
drug dealer, and an especially dangerous
drug dealer, an enemy posing as a friend.
Prosecute every overdose as a manslaughter,
as the drug provided did not contain an
ingredients list or disclosing it's strength,
and proof of it's safety and effectiveness.


>>
>> Shutting down our Pharmacies (Rite Aid) for the drug war, is criminal.

If it's a drug war I haven't heard of any
corrupt officials being charged with the
most serious crime of treason.  Certainly
every drug trafficker is a traitor or a
soldier of a foreign power.  The high death
rate in the drug world is caused by corruption,
not laws against drugs.

Practically the world drug traffic requires
corruption to operate.  But you drug legalizers
make no complaints about this corruption, as
that's how drugs are produced.  The best friends
of criminals are the corrupt.

>>
>> There would be no Opioid crisis if Codeine were sold as it was, at Rite

You are completely ignorant of narcotics by
your suggestion that legalizing codeine
suppresses other opioids.

This codeine statement reminds me of the old
slogan by drug legalizers: "deaths from heroin
are caused by laws against marijuana".


>> Aid.  No one would use any opiate more potent than Codeine, today, which
>> your body turns into Morphine.  Codeine is already as bad for you as
>> liquor, which is the devil's drug.  No one would use Morphine,
>> Oxycontin, Heroin, or Fentanyl, which are all more potent, than Codeine,
>> in order.  No alcoholic, today, drinks 75%-99% alcohol, even though it
>> is widely available and stocked at any liquor store.  If one outlawed
>> alcohol today, 99% alcohol is almost ALL that would be for sale, and
>> alcoholics would be using only 99%.  This is why there's an Opoid
>> Pandemic.  No one would use any opiate more potent than Codeine, today,
>> which your body turns into Morphine.
>>
>> Christians, supposedly passed the 18th Amendment, which banned the

Quit lying, atheists and Jews also supported banning
alcohol.  You are inserting current anti-prohibition
politics over the past.

And get your facts right: Capone and the gang
openly advocated repeal of prohibition, just
like drug dealers openly advocate legalizing drugs.
There is an army of thugs behind legalization,
and the lying slogans about Only Criminals Support
Prohibition shows how dishonest the legalizers are.

>> manufacture of alcohol, yet Jesus turned water into wine.  Jesus would
>> turn flour into cocaine today, and drink wine in public today, believe
>> me you.
>>
>> Jesus is not under your laws, and neither are we.  You are under no laws
>> but God's.  What the U.S. is, is called "criminal oppression."

There you go, you say laws against drugs are
criminal oppression.  No they're not, they are
wonderful laws, they spotlight the corrupt;
surely no official who illegally tolerates drugs
can be trusted in any capacity for more important
stuff.

>>
>> A nation of laws, is a nation of wrongs.  I SAY, the U.S. is a nation of
>> _rights_, and there is no wrong unless there is a right violated.
>>
>> All prohibition is wrongful condemnation.  Abortion.  Guns.  Sexuality.
>> Drugs.  Use of the Public Lands.  All prohibition is akin to persecuting
>> witchcraft.  All prohibition is witch killing.  All prohibition is
>> persecution of a minority interest, which is genocide.  All prohibition
>> is wrongful contempt.  All prohibition is hate crime.  All prohibition
>> is prison.  Politicians practicing prohibition, are broken arrows, at
>> war on the American people.  The war on drugs, is war on the people, and
>> treason.  It doesn't matter how many votes, the politicians get. America
>> is for ALL people, however disparate their interests might be. Judging
>> people who are different than you, is prejudice.


Counter-proposal, how about you crusaders for drugs
first demonstrate the safety and good will of the
drug dealing community, then, and only then, can we
begin the debate on drug legalization?

It would be great to not have drug prohibition, if it
weren't necessary.  But the malicious and criminal
nature of drug proselytizers is proof that drug
prohibition is needed.

The evil of the drug legalizing people makes it obvious
that their demands must be fought against.  Their
malice, their sadistic hatred of the weak and
defenseless, is itself criminal minded.  Burglars,
rapists, gangs, corporate crime, murderers, corrupt
officials, etc., all want drugs legal, which is a great
reason for normal people to oppose your demands, under
the common sense deduction that Like Causes Like.


>>
>> "The cause of freedom is not the cause of a race or sect, a party or a
>> class——it is the cause of humankind, the very birthright of humanity."
>> - Anna Julia Cooper,
>> - On all U.S. Passports!
>>
>>
>>
>> The U.S. criminal justice system has not risen to the lofty level of "an
>> eye for an eye," much less the ministry of forgiveness.  The U.S.
>> criminal justice system, is vengeance on the innocent, justifying itself
>> by doctrine.  We are not justified by doctrine, but by truth.  An eye
>> for an eye, and the whole world would be FREE, since the government
>> maintains a corner on vengeance!  Vengeance is crime, and all it can
>> serve, is to make a lie not persist perpetrated by the unrepentant, (and
>> even more so, what if you're just negative for nothing).  Why would
>> it (vengeance) be legal for a government?  It is not.  Forgiveness, lifts the
>> darkness, reasserts your will, and lets you look upon a world of light.
>> This world of light, this circle of brightness, is the real world, where
>> guilt meets with forgiveness.
>>
>> God is love and light, and within, and one with you.  And he does love
>> you, and everyone your country has killed, as well as those who killed
>> them.
>>
>> "For Satan accuses our brethren before our God day and night."
>> Revelations 12:10
>>
>>
>> Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine, and sold out of sight on demand,
>> at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.
>>
>> This means all drugs, to all ages on demand, without prescription.  For
>> government imposed age discrimination is crime.  With more labeling
>> information, and recommendations how to use/not use, warnings,
>> degree/level danger of the drug clearly specified.  People who can buy,
>> can read.
>>
>> Also, people need to be informed, to use the less potent drugs.  They're
>> not intelligent without greater information.  You don't want to inhale
>> nor inject potent drugs.  The Heroin, Crack, Crystal Meth, etc. should
>> point people to the less potent varieties: Codeine, Cocaine, Speed,
>> respectively.  Identifying, and describing, the potency differences.
>> However, this can all become conventional wisdom, and easily understood
>> by everyone, as 151 RUM is.  151 RUM DOES say it's 75% alcohol on the
>> bottle.  No Heroin or Crack dealer ever said CRAP!  ...they just want to
>> sell you something.
>>
>>
>> We have a nation of 165 million alcohol users, and of those, 25 million
>> alcohol ABUSERS (who drink more than 10 drinks per day).  We don't want
>> to market drugs as recreation like alcohol.  Furthermore, anyone using
>> liquor, or any other potent drug, more than two days per week, is going
>> to become an alcoholic/addict and end up in AA/NA.  For every day you
>> use a drug, don't use it for three.  The label should say as much.  Most
>> sane partiers party twice per month, while twice per week is merely the
>> max on the same drug.  If you use more, as a chronic user, quit for two
>> months, right now, to prove you're in control, and then go back to, "for
>> every day you use, don't use for three," only if you must.  Even better,
>> if you do drink, limit yourself to no more than two drinks, and don't
>> get trashed.  You will have a better time.  Make 2x2 your max.  Even the
>> high never gets better than the first drink.  You don't want to inject,
>> nor inhale, potent drugs, _at all_.  Drugs use up all your good feelings
>> at once, or numb your bad feelings.  Doing alcohol or drugs, is like
>> riding roller coasters, and who rides roller coasters more than a few
>> times per year - the marginal benefit diminishes after the first few
>> times, period.  Drugs are a social, and a mental impediment, and don't
>> help you "get the girl/guy."  Drunk people are socially repulsive.  Try
>> drinking water when you socialize, and get a good night's sleep.  All
>> this, and it is 100% your right to drink and be drunk in public at all
>> ages.  70% of college students drink at age 18, proving it is legal, and
>> the government is a crime.  Government imposed age discrimination is a
>> crime, and we do not accept erroneous laws.
>>
>>
>> Boneheads merely said "put cigarettes behind the counter," so you have
>> to ask for them.  But they put them behind the checkout counter, and now
>> they exist as an impulse item.  I'm saying, put them out of sight, no
>> one cares if you have to ask for them, it doesn't temper anything, it's
>> just slightly more annoying.  It should be, behind a CURTAIN, or through
>> a separate entrance.  I don't smoke cigarettes.  Put more warnings on
>> them, it's crime to sell them as a recreational item, as it's crime to
>> sell snake oil as a cure for cancer.  You can't lie about what you're
>> selling.  They're just not fit for human consumption. However, if you
>> choose to use them for human consumption, it is better to do so in this
>> manner...
>> _The label should say so much as that_.  Even so, you have a RIGHT to
>> smoke tobacco in public all day (if you're not blowing it in someone's
>> face, sitting in the same place), and we take offense at all these
>> prohibitions of our lawful use of our public property and liberty, and
>> you likewise have a right to huff glue, as it's your body, your glue,
>> your right to huff it, even if you're stupid if you do so.  You're not
>> guilty by doctrine.  But people persecuting you by doctrine _are_ guilty
>> by fact, so far as right and wrong and guilt go.  Believing in guilt is
>> not right, but this doesn't give a pass to moral relativism.  There is
>> truth and error.  There is forgiveness for the repentant, and those who
>> do not forgive the repentant _are_ guilty.  The criminal justice system
>> should be about redemption, not degradation.  We should all have firm
>> faith and belief that criminals have degraded themselves sufficiently by
>> *committing* the crime, when a true crime, as judged by legal SCIENCE,
>> and God, and according to the TRUTH.  Criminals just need to recognize
>> what they did was crime - when it's real crime, not drug trafficking,
>> and be redeemed from their victimization of others.  Not further
>> degraded, as they've already degraded themselves completely through
>> serial rape or whatnot.  (But this type of criminal, only constitutes
>> less than 15% of the "justice" system).  It's apparently the worry of
>> *their* belief in *their* activities that fuels the vengeance system.
>>
>> Drugs cost your body the same no matter how rich you are.  Employed now,
>> and think you have time and money so you can go out drinking?  Cost on
>> your body is still the same.  Multi-millionaire, so you think you can
>> afford to smoke Meth now?  Cost on your body is still the same.  To
>> quote "Top Gun," "your ego's writing checks, your body can't cash."
>> Don't be a bonehead, life is about Science, Art, and Friends.  In other
>> words, Work and Friends.  Everything's enrichment or enjoyment.
>> Enrichment increases happiness forever.  Do some work and be productive,
>> and be richer for it today.
>>
>> As for drugs, as Nancy Reagan said, "Just say no."  And fuck the U.S.
>> criminal justice system.
>>
>> Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine, and sold out of sight on demand,
>> at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.
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