Re: Sick - so very sick

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> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With an actual fever, and coughing and runny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nose. And sleeping a lot. Probably TB or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something... any time now I'm likely to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coughing up blood flecked phlegm. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sucks :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like covid to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel better soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So not tuberculosis after all - no blood from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lungs. Dunno if it's covid, and no way to find out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short of a trip to bigtown, which didn't seem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advisable in the situation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like the same symptoms I had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI it took 4 to 6 weeks to recover from it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have that kind of time... I have things to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can still watch tv or sit outside and drink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coffee. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eventually I will have to buy some food. And stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also do some garden things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean the garden things that you should have done 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those, and the things I should have done in between then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and now. And the things I should do regularly. And the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things related to the projected pond and stream.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can hardly wait to see the pictures.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As said, it could take a while - for now there is only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> horrendously unkept lawn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Replace the grass with clovers.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have seriously considered that, both for the not mowing
>>>>>>>>>>> and for the insects. Also there isn't all that muich grass
>>>>>>>>>>> left what with the patch covered in pine needles and the
>>>>>>>>>>> bits where the moss is winning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to overseed with clover.
>>>>>>>>>> They have some nice mixes at WestCoast seeds:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.westcoastseeds.com/products/alternative-lawn-
blend
>>>>>>>>> That does look nice - on the bag at least. It would be nice
>>>>>>>>> with a mix with different flowering periods so there's
>>>>>>>>> something going on for a good part of the year.
>>>>>>>>> Also the anti deer mix seems to be packed with poppies. The
>>>>>>>>> idea is obviously to keep the poor animals stoned all season.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My neighbours are spraying for mosquitoes which also kills
>>>>>>>>>> off the butterflies and other beneficials.
>>>>>>>>> The bastards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 100 years from now, researchers are going to discover that we
>>>>>>>> poisoned our whole environment over a mosquito and a
>>>>>>>> dandelion... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ITYM: '30-40 years ago, researchers discovered...'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing is done about it, if that's the case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, they did eventually get rid of lead in petrol - only after
>>>>> damaging the brain of a whole generation, but still.
>>>>> Also: IT'S CAPITALISM!
>>>>>
>>>> You say that a lot.
>>> It's true a lot. Especially the unfettered kind.
>>>
>> Do that even happen? There are regulations for everything.
> 
> Regulations are almost invariably reactive, so the fettering only
> happens after enough politicians realise (are forced to react to) how
> bad the unfettered behaviour is.
> 
But not always. Sometimes they have a tribunal that reviews the evidence 
and finds nothing substantial.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have faith in you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, that's one, at least...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YAY! I'm # 1!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * rankings based on the number of people in the froup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those are the people that matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised you ranked me above yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>> I know quite a few unflattering things about me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like what?
>>>>>>>>> Private things...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can't say things like that and provide no closure.
>>>>>>> Yes I can. The internet isn't ready...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> *interest waning*
>>>>>> It's not like your the only person on the internet who touches 
>>>>>> themselves...
>>>>> Nice try. "I can neither confirm nor deny..."
>>>> Uh-huh.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You chew with your mouth open?
>>>>>>>>>> You refuse to trim your jagged, yellow toenails?
>>>>>>>>> I don't have jagged, yellow toenails...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have free Rapid tests so you can test at home.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have commercially available rapid test so I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test at home. The problem is they aren't at my home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I don't care enough to go find one. I probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to go to the pharmacy for it... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a handy thing to have around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not going to make this crap go away any faster,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No but at least you would know if you have covid or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flu. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And then I someone asks me whether I've had covid I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could answer with some degree of certainty. And then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They probably run away because people are still covid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shy. If you know for certain that you've had it, you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to delay any planned booster shots for at least 6 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think there are any plans for further booster
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shots. Not for the general public at least.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think here they recommend a booster every 6 months for
>>>>>>>>>>>> at-risk people and 1 in the Fall every year for everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> else (like the flu shot). 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut your health system probably also doesn't (illegally)
>>>>>>>>>>> postpone a whole lot of intestinal cancer operations until
>>>>>>>>>>> it's too late causing a great big scandal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or no one has found out yet.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that some people died during covid as a result of
>>>>>>>>>> postponed surgeries. Now there is a huge nursing shortage
>>>>>>>>>> here. Some ERs are being closed overnights and on weekends.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The news media always finds the one person who is gravely
>>>>>>>>>> affected by <insert policy here>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fever is gone, and coughing more or less back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal levels, so just the clogged nose and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fatigue to deal with. Good thing too since I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty much run out of life's essentials and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely have to go shopping tomorrow (today,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually but after sleep). 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad you dissuaded me from visiting your garden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could have done that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did it myself. Twice in two days. But only for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most pressing needs. And I got tired both times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *eye roll*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can tell you are impressed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I ordered groceries online and had them delivered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really an option around here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *snickers*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Candy bars aren't a pressing need by any definition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's energy food.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what they want you to think. It also has rather a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of sugar... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I ate a chocolate bar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me either. I think *my* last chocolate bar was a three
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pack from a store up the coast when I bonked badly on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride... Some years back. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do have a square of 85% chocolate after dinner each
>>>>>>>>>>>> night. 
>>>>>>>>>>> You hedonist, you!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep. it stops me from craving sweets.
>>>>>>>>> If that is all it takes it hardly qualify as a craving.
>>>>>>>>> Depending on the size of the square, of course.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See. it works!
>>>>>>>> The measurement here is my craving or consumption of sweet
>>>>>>>> things before I started eating chocolate.
>>>>>>> So you are merely deluding yourself into thinking the chocolate
>>>>>>> is an adequate substitute for all the sweets you used to eat? Or
>>>>>>> is there some magical property with the chocolate that inhibits
>>>>>>> the craving? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I knew you would say that...
>>>>>
>>>> No you didn't.
>>> I strongly suspected.
>> Is that because it's something that you would have done?
> 
> It is because I thoughlessly gave two (contradictory) options which
> each invited a Yes/No answer. It has happened a lot in this group...
> 
Really? I hadn't noticed.
My parents are also like that.
Once I remember when we were at my Gran's and she asked everyone if they 
would like coffee or tea and someone said 'yes' so she put coffee and 
tea in a cup for them. Sometimes being a smartass doesn't work out.

>>>> Anyways, I didn't eat a lot of sweets to begin with.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good thing I didn't throw out those face masks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the mandate was retracted - I wouldn't want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to inflict whatever-it-is on anyone else (well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost anyone). 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And then I have some surfaces to clean, I guess...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You probably won't reinfect yourself if you don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you clean you'll be tired and need to nap again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I sit in the chair for an hour I'll get tired and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to nap again. It is getting a bit annoying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. And the more you do, the longer it will take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to recover. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By that metric I should have been back at full
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strength a week ago. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The time when you're feverish and in bed doesn't count.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about the time I'm feverish and not in bed? Or in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bed but not feverish? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *smacks you for being annoying*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *feels no pain*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop hitting me. It's not nice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I like you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thats a funny (and somewhat infantile) way of showing it, if
>>>>>>>>>>> so... 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If I were seriously, this is where I would become suicidal.
>>>>>>>>> Or violent...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *cough*
>>>>>>>>>> I mean I don't like-like you.
>>>>>>>>>> I like you as a friend even though you criticize me.
>>>>>>>>> When have I ever criticised you? I never criticise - I give
>>>>>>>>> helpful corrective feedback...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You said I was pretentious for going to a coffee shop. Not sure
>>>>>>>> how that is helpful.
>>>>>>> I said hanging out in coffee shops is an indicator for
>>>>>>> pretentiousness. Not quite the same.
>>>>>>> I'm still not convinced about the wonderfulness of expensive
>>>>>>> beverages with silly names that may of may not contain some
>>>>>>> coffee related liquid. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Italian words? What's silly about 'americano'?
>>>>> I read somewhere that 'americano' in Italy is a (derogatory) term
>>>>> for 'espresso with extra water'.
>>>>
>>>> *eye roll*
>>>> They need to move on from WWII. 
>>> They did - before it was over even. But I don't think their coffee
>>> preferences have anything to do with WWII.
>> They still harbour resentment towards Americans because of WWII.
> Why do they do that? They were on the same side (eventually).
> 
Yeah. Eventually.
FDR kept saying it wasn't America's war.
I didn't help that his buddy Joesph P. Kennedy was a nazi sympathizer.

>>>>> Elsewhere 'american style' may mean filtered coffee... IOW Coffee!
>>>>>> Their coffee is so smooth.
>>>>> But still just coffee - by any other name.
>>>>>
>>>> All coffee is not equal.
>>>> You've apparently never had a really good cup of coffee.
>>> All my coffee is good.
>>>
>> Soo you say.
> 
> Is true. Because it has coffee in it.
> 
Not all coffee is good. The thought of drinking coffee that has been 
sitting for hours in a thermos makes me nauseous.
Coffee is a bean and has oil on it like peanuts do. The oil goes stale 
or even rancid on improperly cleaned equipment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes and no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thought so...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> then why ask the question?
>>>>>>>>>>> For verification... Always verify your data.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You know what I do for a living, right?
>>>>>>>>> More or less.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So lots of data verification.
>>>>>>> So you ageee, then. Point for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No points. We discussed this already.
>>>>>
>>>>> *pout*
>>>>>
>>>> That is so adorable!
>>> Does that mean I get the point?
>>>
>> No. I come from the 'stop whining or I'll give you something to whine
>> about' generation.
> 
> Please miss, may I have another point.
> 
No.