Re: Heating woes

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]: 
>> 
>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>
>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13.05.2023 13.13,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Merlyne 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [pruned]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [how spring-like]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['tis the season to be pruny]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [pruny sounds like what happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>> one  stays in the bathtub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too >> long] >>> [pruny sounds is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what >> happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>> restroom when you eat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>too >>>> many >> prunes.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I have nothing to add to that]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [And here I thought it would be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good >>> conversation starter.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo! How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many >> prunes is too many? I eat a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>few >> every >> day] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If either you or your detritus is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have had too many.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You could say that about most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>things. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I  once ate an entire bag of black
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> licorce 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one sitting. Not advisable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in moderation except moderation...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Licorice is great for raising your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood pressure as well as delicious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also unmoderated moderation gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>really > boring after a while.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Does it? Colour me boring then]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll check if they have that next time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in the paint store.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I was hoping you were going to use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marker] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The only markers I have are black or red
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - neither of those are boring] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What do you consider boring? Grey?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [As colours go. Beige, off-white... anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that looks like it's been washed too many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe I already look like I've been washed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too much] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Is that why you think you have a boring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colour?] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It was more about moderation]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Sometimes you just have to go all out. Or in...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [My brane hurts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You really should get one of those brane massage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thingies] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Which?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The ones with the wires and the little balls...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: Expecting a ].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Aren't those for massaging the scalp?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, you obviously have to remove the top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scull first for the best results]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's always a catch. First you need the massage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thingie and then you get it out of the box and see you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need a Stryker saw. At this point, I've already opened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the box, so I can't send it back for a refund. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement blades for that thing aren't cheap. Then I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get part way around and realize I can't get my skull
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undone at the back] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe the friendly people at the hardware store can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help you out. If I buy wood I can get it cut to size for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DKK50 per cut...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I don't want someone who cuts wood for a living playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around with my  skull]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You should have some faith in your fellow human, I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are perfectly competent. And willing to sanitise the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blade for a nominal fee.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Hard pass]
>>>>>>>>>>> [If you prefer. But you don't know where that blade has
>>>>>>>>>>> been.] 
>>>>>>>>>> [*runs away*]
>>>>>>>>> [There really is no way to please you, is there?]
>>>>>>>> [Not when it comes to opening my head with a rusty blade, no}
>>>>>>> *crying and shaking from TWO unbalanced parenthesises*
>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>> [The rusty part is on you, though, if you won't pay the cleaning
>>>>>>> fee] 
>>>>>> [Can I borrow some money? I'm a bit short right now]
>>>>> [Doesn't your health insurance cover de-rusting?]
>>>> [I doubt it. It covers only the essentials, not cosmetic things]
>>> [You could argue that not un-rusting the saw is an infection risk,
>>> so it could be more expensive in the long run.]
>> [Have you every tried to argue with an insurance company?]
> [Nope. But I'm sure they are all nice people with your best interest
> in mind.]
[I'm sure their profits are ahead of my welfare]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [semantics no more]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Huh?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Left on the editor's floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I must have misunderstood the editor. I thought he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said my dress would look good on the floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I would think that's more of a producer's comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway that sort of thing doesn't happen any more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was that scandal in the 30's, I think, and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that nonsense stopped.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yeah, right. I used to sit beside the IT cluster back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the 80's. They harrassed me (and other women) every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day. Well, the ones who weren't too scared to talk to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> girl did.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That must be a uniquely Canadian thing. Something like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would never happen here. Except for the head of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major union. She had to resign recently, amid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accusations of bullying and harassment. And the bigwig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one of the political parties who 'elected to spend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more time with his family' or something not long ago.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By harassment, I meant sexual harassment. I used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laugh it off. Nowadays the comments would be reported to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HR.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Both examples above included/consisted of sexual
>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassment. People who gain power think they can get away
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with stuff. Down with power.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [I've never had my job threatened]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [Try harassing someone. That may work.]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [The harrassment courses that we to take don't give any tips
>>>>>>>>>> on how to harrass someone.]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure they do. All the stuff where it says 'Don't do this' - do
>>>>>>>>> that. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They don't really do that anymore.
>>>>>>>> The first time we took it, it was in a classroom. People where
>>>>>>>> asking too many questions. Having met other people, I assume
>>>>>>>> that scheduling everybody into a session is a logistical
>>>>>>>> nightmare. They switched it to an online course with case
>>>>>>>> studies. One was about a woman who took a lower paying job in a
>>>>>>>> department after being harrassed by a coworker. The coworker
>>>>>>>> was another woman who was mean to her and said things like 'I'm
>>>>>>>> sick of covering for you' and shoved the first woman into the
>>>>>>>> wall when they were alone in the washroom and stuff like that.
>>>>>>>> It probably triggered someone. Now the course is online and
>>>>>>>> focuses on the broad definition of harrassment and what you
>>>>>>>> should do if you are harrassed and the steps of the process to
>>>>>>>> resolve the complaint. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like it's the victims responsibility now.
>>>>>> I think they don't take it seriously unless there are witnesses
>>>>>> and stuff. Otherwise it turns into one of those he-said-she-said
>>>>>> things. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One radical idea I just came up with is just not have harassers
>>>>>>> going around in the work environment harassing people...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>                      /don't
>>>>>> Unfortunately, you control other people especially bullies.
>>>>
>>>> I missed a word, which I do often since I think faster than I type.
>>>> Let's go with that.
>>>>
>>>>> Somebody surely controls whether they are/remain employed.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. But you have a prove a case with Labour Relations and then it
>>>> will go to arbitration and the bully will be given a chance to
>>>> improve. The union will fight any dismissals. It's really hard to
>>>> rid of people. 
>>>
>>> But if they spend their time bullying other people they can't also
>>> be doing their job properly... So fire them for incompetence.
>> 
>> Yeah. That is also an uphill battle. *sigh*
>>>
>>>>>> Years ago, a co-worker spent time in jail because he molested a
>>>>>> kid at his wife's daycare. The day before he came back, we were
>>>>>> all herded into the boardroom and told that mentioning his crime
>>>>>> or being mean to him was harrassment and anyone doing so would be
>>>>>> fired. The system works.
>>>>> Clearly...
>>>>>
>>>>> So not the guy assigned to look after the kids at the company
>>>>> picnic, I take it.
>>>>
>>>> I would advise against it. 
>>>
>>> You are so wise...
>> 
>> It's the glasses, isn't it?
> 
> That, and the professional attire.
> 

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