Re: Sick - so very sick

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> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09.06.2023 14.58, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 05.06.2023 00.58, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With an actual fever, and coughing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runny nose. And sleeping a lot. Probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TB or something... any time now I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely to start coughing up blood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flecked phlegm. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sucks :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like covid to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel better soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So not tuberculosis after all - no blood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the lungs. Dunno if it's covid, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no way to find out short of a trip to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigtown, which didn't seem advisable in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the situation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like the same symptoms I had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI it took 4 to 6 weeks to recover from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have that kind of time... I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to do. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can still watch tv or sit outside and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drink coffee. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eventually I will have to buy some food. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff. Also do some garden things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean the garden things that you should have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done 2 months ago? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those, and the things I should have done in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between then and now. And the things I should do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly. And the things related to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projected pond and stream. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can hardly wait to see the pictures.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As said, it could take a while - for now there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only horrendously unkept lawn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replace the grass with clovers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have seriously considered that, both for the not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mowing and for the insects. Also there isn't all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that muich grass left what with the patch covered in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pine needles and the bits where the moss is winning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to overseed with clover.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have some nice mixes at WestCoast seeds:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.westcoastseeds.com/products/alternative-
>> lawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 
>>>>>>>> blend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That does look nice - on the bag at least. It would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice with a mix with different flowering periods so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's something going on for a good part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year. Also the anti deer mix seems to be packed with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poppies. The idea is obviously to keep the poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals stoned all season. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My neighbours are spraying for mosquitoes which also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kills off the butterflies and other beneficials.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bastards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 years from now, researchers are going to discover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we poisoned our whole environment over a mosquito
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a dandelion... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ITYM: '30-40 years ago, researchers discovered...'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is done about it, if that's the case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, they did eventually get rid of lead in petrol - only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after damaging the brain of a whole generation, but still.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: IT'S CAPITALISM!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You say that a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>> It's true a lot. Especially the unfettered kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do that even happen? There are regulations for everything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regulations are almost invariably reactive, so the fettering
>>>>>>>>> only happens after enough politicians realise (are forced to
>>>>>>>>> react to) how bad the unfettered behaviour is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But not always. Sometimes they have a tribunal that reviews the
>>>>>>>> evidence and finds nothing substantial.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's when either the voter margin is big enough in favour, or
>>>>>>> the stack of cash from Unfettered Capitalism is...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Money talks and bullshit walks...
>>>>> You can deceive all of the people some of the time, and some of
>>>>> the people all of the time, but you cannot deceive all of the
>>>>> people all of the time... and then comes the revolution!!1! (or,
>>>>> you know, a different democratically elected governing body or
>>>>> something.) 
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes that happens.
>>>
>>> Just not nearly as fast and/or often as it should...
>>>
>>> [Snipporific extraction]
>> [And the winner is ......*drum roll*]
> [*Attempts to look unconcerned*]
[You look worried or gassy, not sure which]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elsewhere 'american style' may mean filtered coffee... IOW
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coffee! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their coffee is so smooth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But still just coffee - by any other name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All coffee is not equal.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You've apparently never had a really good cup of coffee.
>>>>>>>>>>> All my coffee is good.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Soo you say.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is true. Because it has coffee in it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not all coffee is good. The thought of drinking coffee that has
>>>>>>>> been sitting for hours in a thermos makes me nauseous.
>>>>>>> Coffee doesn't sit for hours around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you drink a pot in a short span of time?
>>>>> A couple of hours, usually. Irrespective from the fact that I
>>>>> don't have a coffee maker ATM, I usually put it in a couple of
>>>>> thermos mugs. The inevitable loss of heat is preferable to leaving
>>>>> the coffee on the hotplate for any length of time.
>>>>>
>>>> My god! How are you making coffee?
>>>
>>> I boil water in a kettle and pour in over ground coffee contained in
>>> a liquid-permeable paper bag - just like gawd intended.
>>>
>> Sounds like how I make tea.
> You mean you don't do the whole chinese/japanese traditional
> tea-making performance?
I'm not sure what that is. My people come from the British Isles.
> 
>>>> My coffee maker brews into a thermal carafe so it will stay fresh
>>>> for hours.
>>> I used to have one of those but the rubber gasket on the lid
>>> disintegrated and it couldn't preserve heat. Also the coffee maker
>>> stopped working - probably because of calcium deposits. Or because
>>> the warranty expired.
>>>
>> You know you're supposed to run vinegar through them once a month?
> Once a month doesn't do it around here. Also we have *special* coffee
> maker decalcifiers. (It's still just acid, but without the smell)
> 
Really? I have super hard water and once a month with vinegar did the 
job.
(Once a week with the humidifier)

>> But it's probably the second thing. How do appliances know when the 
>> warranty expires?
> It's coded in the chip.
> 
Ah.
>>>>>>>> Coffee is a bean and has oil on it like peanuts do. The oil
>>>>>>>> goes stale or even rancid on improperly cleaned equipment.
>>>>>>> But that's not strictly speaking the coffee's fault then...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right. But it greatly affects the coffee in a bad way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes and no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thought so...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then why ask the question?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For verification... Always verify your data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know what I do for a living, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More or less.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lots of data verification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you ageee, then. Point for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No points. We discussed this already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pout*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is so adorable!
>>>>>>>>>>> Does that mean I get the point?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No. I come from the 'stop whining or I'll give you something
>>>>>>>>>> to whine about' generation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please miss, may I have another point.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mean.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whiner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bully.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think bullying is when someone won't give you something.
>>> You were threatening violence...!
>>>
>>>> Stop being a suck.
>>> I'll suck however much I want.
>>>
>> It's at times like this, I wish Phil were here.
> 
> I'm sure he will agree with my right to suck.
> 
You just keep believing that.