Re: Sick - so very sick

On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09.06.2023 14.58, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 05.06.2023 00.58, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With an actual fever, and coughing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runny nose. And sleeping a lot. Probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TB or something... any time now I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely to start coughing up blood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flecked phlegm. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sucks :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like covid to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel better soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So not tuberculosis after all - no blood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the lungs. Dunno if it's covid, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no way to find out short of a trip to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigtown, which didn't seem advisable in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the situation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like the same symptoms I had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI it took 4 to 6 weeks to recover from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have that kind of time... I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to do. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can still watch tv or sit outside and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drink coffee. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eventually I will have to buy some food. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff. Also do some garden things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean the garden things that you should have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done 2 months ago? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those, and the things I should have done in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between then and now. And the things I should do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly. And the things related to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projected pond and stream. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can hardly wait to see the pictures.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As said, it could take a while - for now there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only horrendously unkept lawn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replace the grass with clovers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have seriously considered that, both for the not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mowing and for the insects. Also there isn't all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that muich grass left what with the patch covered in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pine needles and the bits where the moss is winning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to overseed with clover.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have some nice mixes at WestCoast seeds:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.westcoastseeds.com/products/alternative-
>>> lawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 
>>>>>>>>> blend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That does look nice - on the bag at least. It would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice with a mix with different flowering periods so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's something going on for a good part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year. Also the anti deer mix seems to be packed with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poppies. The idea is obviously to keep the poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals stoned all season. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My neighbours are spraying for mosquitoes which also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kills off the butterflies and other beneficials.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bastards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 years from now, researchers are going to discover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we poisoned our whole environment over a mosquito
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a dandelion... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ITYM: '30-40 years ago, researchers discovered...'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is done about it, if that's the case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, they did eventually get rid of lead in petrol - only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after damaging the brain of a whole generation, but still.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: IT'S CAPITALISM!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You say that a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's true a lot. Especially the unfettered kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do that even happen? There are regulations for everything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regulations are almost invariably reactive, so the fettering
>>>>>>>>>> only happens after enough politicians realise (are forced to
>>>>>>>>>> react to) how bad the unfettered behaviour is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But not always. Sometimes they have a tribunal that reviews the
>>>>>>>>> evidence and finds nothing substantial.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's when either the voter margin is big enough in favour, or
>>>>>>>> the stack of cash from Unfettered Capitalism is...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Money talks and bullshit walks...
>>>>>> You can deceive all of the people some of the time, and some of
>>>>>> the people all of the time, but you cannot deceive all of the
>>>>>> people all of the time... and then comes the revolution!!1! (or,
>>>>>> you know, a different democratically elected governing body or
>>>>>> something.) 
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes that happens.
>>>>
>>>> Just not nearly as fast and/or often as it should...
>>>>
>>>> [Snipporific extraction]
>>> [And the winner is ......*drum roll*]
>> [*Attempts to look unconcerned*]
> [You look worried or gassy, not sure which]
[That's my unconcerned look.]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elsewhere 'american style' may mean filtered coffee... IOW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coffee! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their coffee is so smooth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But still just coffee - by any other name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All coffee is not equal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You've apparently never had a really good cup of coffee.
>>>>>>>>>>>> All my coffee is good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Soo you say.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is true. Because it has coffee in it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not all coffee is good. The thought of drinking coffee that has
>>>>>>>>> been sitting for hours in a thermos makes me nauseous.
>>>>>>>> Coffee doesn't sit for hours around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you drink a pot in a short span of time?
>>>>>> A couple of hours, usually. Irrespective from the fact that I
>>>>>> don't have a coffee maker ATM, I usually put it in a couple of
>>>>>> thermos mugs. The inevitable loss of heat is preferable to leaving
>>>>>> the coffee on the hotplate for any length of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>> My god! How are you making coffee?
>>>>
>>>> I boil water in a kettle and pour in over ground coffee contained in
>>>> a liquid-permeable paper bag - just like gawd intended.
>>>>
>>> Sounds like how I make tea.
>> You mean you don't do the whole chinese/japanese traditional
>> tea-making performance?
> I'm not sure what that is. My people come from the British Isles.
It's a long and strict ritual involving boiling water, tea-pots, cups
and bamboo whiskers.. and of course tea leaves.
So you just splash some milk and hot water over a teabag, then?

>>>>> My coffee maker brews into a thermal carafe so it will stay fresh
>>>>> for hours.
>>>> I used to have one of those but the rubber gasket on the lid
>>>> disintegrated and it couldn't preserve heat. Also the coffee maker
>>>> stopped working - probably because of calcium deposits. Or because
>>>> the warranty expired.
>>>>
>>> You know you're supposed to run vinegar through them once a month?
>> Once a month doesn't do it around here. Also we have *special* coffee
>> maker decalcifiers. (It's still just acid, but without the smell)
>>
> Really? I have super hard water and once a month with vinegar did the 
> job.
> (Once a week with the humidifier)
> 
>>> But it's probably the second thing. How do appliances know when the 
>>> warranty expires?
>> It's coded in the chip.
>>
> Ah.
>>>>>>>>> Coffee is a bean and has oil on it like peanuts do. The oil
>>>>>>>>> goes stale or even rancid on improperly cleaned equipment.
>>>>>>>> But that's not strictly speaking the coffee's fault then...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right. But it greatly affects the coffee in a bad way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes and no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thought so...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then why ask the question?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For verification... Always verify your data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know what I do for a living, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More or less.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lots of data verification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you ageee, then. Point for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No points. We discussed this already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pout*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is so adorable!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that mean I get the point?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No. I come from the 'stop whining or I'll give you something
>>>>>>>>>>> to whine about' generation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please miss, may I have another point.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whiner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bully.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think bullying is when someone won't give you something.
>>>> You were threatening violence...!
>>>>
>>>>> Stop being a suck.
>>>> I'll suck however much I want.
>>>>
>>> It's at times like this, I wish Phil were here.
>>
>> I'm sure he will agree with my right to suck.
>>
> You just keep believing that.

I will.

-- 
BeH

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