Re: Heating woes

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]: 
>> 
>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13.05.2023 13.13,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merlyne 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [pruned]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [how spring-like]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['tis the season to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pruny] >>>>>>>>>> [pruny sounds like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>> one  stays in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bathtub 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too >> long] >>> [pruny sounds is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >> happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>> restroom when you eat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too >>>> many >> prunes.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I have nothing to add to that]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [And here I thought it would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a >>>> good >>> conversation starter.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo! How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many >> prunes is too many? I eat a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few >> every >> day] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If either you or your detritus is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have had too many.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You could say that about most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I  once ate an entire bag of black
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> licorce 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one sitting. Not advisable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in moderation except moderation...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Licorice is great for raising your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood pressure as well as delicious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also unmoderated moderation gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really > boring after a while.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Does it? Colour me boring then]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll check if they have that next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>time > I'm in the paint store.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I was hoping you were going to use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marker] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The only markers I have are black or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> red - neither of those are boring] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What do you consider boring? Grey?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [As colours go. Beige, off-white...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything that looks like it's been washed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too many times] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe I already look like I've been washed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too much] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Is that why you think you have a boring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colour?] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It was more about moderation]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Sometimes you just have to go all out. Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in... something like that] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [My brane hurts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You really should get one of those brane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massage thingies] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Which?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The ones with the wires and the little balls...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: Expecting a ].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Aren't those for massaging the scalp?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, you obviously have to remove the top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scull first for the best results]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's always a catch. First you need the massage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thingie and then you get it out of the box and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need a Stryker saw. At this point, I've already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened the box, so I can't send it back for a refund.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The replacement blades for that thing aren't cheap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I get part way around and realize I can't get my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skull undone at the back] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe the friendly people at the hardware store can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help you out. If I buy wood I can get it cut to size
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for DKK50 per cut...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I don't want someone who cuts wood for a living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing around with my  skull]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You should have some faith in your fellow human, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure they are perfectly competent. And willing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sanitise the blade for a nominal fee.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Hard pass]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If you prefer. But you don't know where that blade has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [*runs away*]
>>>>>>>>>>> [There really is no way to please you, is there?]
>>>>>>>>>> [Not when it comes to opening my head with a rusty blade, no}
>>>>>>>>> *crying and shaking from TWO unbalanced parenthesises*
>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>> [The rusty part is on you, though, if you won't pay the
>>>>>>>>> cleaning fee] 
>>>>>>>> [Can I borrow some money? I'm a bit short right now]
>>>>>>> [Doesn't your health insurance cover de-rusting?]
>>>>>> [I doubt it. It covers only the essentials, not cosmetic things]
>>>>> [You could argue that not un-rusting the saw is an infection risk,
>>>>> so it could be more expensive in the long run.]
>>>> [Have you every tried to argue with an insurance company?]
>>> [Nope. But I'm sure they are all nice people with your best interest
>>> in mind.]
>> [I'm sure their profits are ahead of my welfare]
> [It must be a miserable life to have mindset like that. But that's
> CAPITALISM for you]
[Money makes the world go around. I feel a song coming on]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [semantics no more]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Huh?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Left on the editor's floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I must have misunderstood the editor. I thought he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said my dress would look good on the floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I would think that's more of a producer's comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway that sort of thing doesn't happen any more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was that scandal in the 30's, I think, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then all that nonsense stopped.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yeah, right. I used to sit beside the IT cluster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back in the 80's. They harrassed me (and other women)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every day. Well, the ones who weren't too scared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk to a girl did.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That must be a uniquely Canadian thing. Something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that would never happen here. Except for the head
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a major union. She had to resign recently, amid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accusations of bullying and harassment. And the bigwig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one of the political parties who 'elected to spend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more time with his family' or something not long ago.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By harassment, I meant sexual harassment. I used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laugh it off. Nowadays the comments would be reported
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to HR.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Both examples above included/consisted of sexual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassment. People who gain power think they can get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away with stuff. Down with power.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I've never had my job threatened]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Try harassing someone. That may work.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [The harrassment courses that we to take don't give any
>>>>>>>>>>>> tips on how to harrass someone.]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sure they do. All the stuff where it says 'Don't do this' -
>>>>>>>>>>> do that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They don't really do that anymore.
>>>>>>>>>> The first time we took it, it was in a classroom. People
>>>>>>>>>> where asking too many questions. Having met other people, I
>>>>>>>>>> assume that scheduling everybody into a session is a
>>>>>>>>>> logistical nightmare. They switched it to an online course
>>>>>>>>>> with case studies. One was about a woman who took a lower
>>>>>>>>>> paying job in a department after being harrassed by a
>>>>>>>>>> coworker. The coworker was another woman who was mean to her
>>>>>>>>>> and said things like 'I'm sick of covering for you' and
>>>>>>>>>> shoved the first woman into the wall when they were alone in
>>>>>>>>>> the washroom and stuff like that. It probably triggered
>>>>>>>>>> someone. Now the course is online and focuses on the broad
>>>>>>>>>> definition of harrassment and what you should do if you are
>>>>>>>>>> harrassed and the steps of the process to resolve the
>>>>>>>>>> complaint. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sounds like it's the victims responsibility now.
>>>>>>>> I think they don't take it seriously unless there are witnesses
>>>>>>>> and stuff. Otherwise it turns into one of those
>>>>>>>> he-said-she-said things. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One radical idea I just came up with is just not have
>>>>>>>>> harassers going around in the work environment harassing
>>>>>>>>> people... 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                      /don't
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you control other people especially bullies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I missed a word, which I do often since I think faster than I
>>>>>> type. Let's go with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somebody surely controls whether they are/remain employed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. But you have a prove a case with Labour Relations and then
>>>>>> it will go to arbitration and the bully will be given a chance to
>>>>>> improve. The union will fight any dismissals. It's really hard to
>>>>>> rid of people. 
>>>>>
>>>>> But if they spend their time bullying other people they can't also
>>>>> be doing their job properly... So fire them for incompetence.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. That is also an uphill battle. *sigh*
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Years ago, a co-worker spent time in jail because he molested a
>>>>>>>> kid at his wife's daycare. The day before he came back, we were
>>>>>>>> all herded into the boardroom and told that mentioning his
>>>>>>>> crime or being mean to him was harrassment and anyone doing so
>>>>>>>> would be fired. The system works.
>>>>>>> Clearly...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So not the guy assigned to look after the kids at the company
>>>>>>> picnic, I take it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would advise against it. 
>>>>>
>>>>> You are so wise...
>>>>
>>>> It's the glasses, isn't it?
>>>
>>> That, and the professional attire.
>>>
>> 
>> Don't mock the yoga pants!
> 
> I'm not. Not at all. I'm all in favour of yoga pants. (Not on me,
> though) 
> 

I do wear casual business attire on the days when I go into the office. 
But I change into my pajamas as soon as I get home.