Re: Spiderman movies

On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the quality of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my naturally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work outside your comfort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem, since I have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intention of leaving the zone. Someone needs to invent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remote braining or something.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is hardly a viable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday prophet is
>>>>>>>>>>> right] 
>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it all come to
>>>>>>>>>> nothing because of a stupid doomsday...]
>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday, now? I'm not
>>>>>> buying a pair of shoes that I can only use once.]
>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try that]
>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand sneakers are
>>>> stupid expensive - and also doesn't last very well.]
>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very well]
>> [And we all know why that is...]
> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
[By jove I think she's got it...]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one of those nylon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs >>> they sell for all hallows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably get a whole bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>> different ones at WalMart for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt it, but would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they go 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800 handbag is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter. People wear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people assume your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off if you use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > a nylon wig. And then what's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they think it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will think your handbag is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cheap knock-off. I can only imagine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the country club bar... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like someone's taken an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds of interest. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned this kind will damage your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> social standing. You might even be invited
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail parties... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely 0 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it even possible to get invited to -1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is possible to send
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out 'do not attend' notices to those who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uniquely unwelcome. I don't think that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens much in cocktail party circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. I don't even like cocktails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess mocktails now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper' cocktail was many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago when a co-worker an I decided to try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything on the menu in the bar on the Oslo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ferry. It went as well as could be expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work may have been a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiny but sub-par the next day...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got your credit card
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The company I worked for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't give out standard per-diem amounts, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything we had a receipt for got refunded...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting receipts for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and list and submit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all those receipts every month. I suspect it cost me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a lot of money, too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills and possibly even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plane tickets. Anyway it's the principle! I shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been required to do accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of receipts to an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the expenses form along
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the relevant account no. and identification of each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipt, which also had to be handed in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being submitted on the form
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then attach the receipts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at least I don't have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the environmental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impact of air-travel. In any case it was more the being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in different places than the  getting there that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoyable. Although I would like to try riding on one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those VeryBigFastness trains they have in France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not you've booked a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seat. I couldn't afford to travel for a long time. Now I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find it stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's stressful, as it's all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the planning and preparation. Just don't do that part.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the arriving at the airport
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at 5 am only to find out that the airline over-booked the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> flight etc, etc that is stressful. I also don't fly well or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep well when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric. The overbooking
>>>>>>>>>>>> is not within your control, so have some breakfast and look
>>>>>>>>>>>> derisively at all the stressed people in the airport.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The hotel bar has remedies for not sleeping well...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer (alcohol content
>>>>>>>>>> optional). The vitamin B will relax you and possibly make you
>>>>>>>>>> sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise) and I can't sleep.
>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in it...
>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when flying. Also they
>>>>>> don't dispense pharmaceuticals at the departure hall bar.
>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a night on the
>>>>> town people wake up parched.
>>>>
>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also possibly the
>>>> physical activity.
>>>>
>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and the social
>> interacting, and the dancing, and the mating rites, and the walking
>> home... It can be quite exhausting. So I've heard.
> 
> I don't remember.

You must have seen it in movies and such.

>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight. If we go to a
>>>>>>>>>>> conference, it's usually in Toronto or we fly from Toronto so
>>>>>>>>>>> we have to get the first flight out of here in the morning.
>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I know this for a
>>>>>>>>>> fact. 
>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train takes 3-4 hours to
>>>>>>>>> get there (vs. 50 minutes for the plane) and the train station
>>>>>>>>> is another hour away from the airport.
>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the distance to the
>>>>>>>> airport is because train stations are inside cities, often
>>>>>>>> really close to where you want to be, so that time should be
>>>>>>>> added to air travel time, as should the 'hours' you have to be
>>>>>>>> at the airport before departure. Given a reasonable number of
>>>>>>>> departures, train journeys (even non-high-speed trains) will
>>>>>>>> end-to-end mostly be faster than air travel up to 400-500Km.
>>>>>>>> Also you have the whole travel time available unbroken for
>>>>>>>> whatever (even work if so inclined). And more leg-room. And
>>>>>>>> usually a table big enough for a laptop. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often cancelled now
>>>>>>>>>>> at the last minute. It's not a problem at if I'm at the local
>>>>>>>>>>> airport, but if I'm trying to get home, it's a huge problem.
>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European airlines [used to]
>>>>>>>>>> hand out cash and/or vouchers for meals and hotel stays in
>>>>>>>>>> those cases. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their power to fight that.
>>>>>>>>> Since covid, they have been short-staffed and therefore
>>>>>>>>> frequently cancel flights at the last minute.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules for that sort of
>>>>>>>> thing. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for every rule there
>>>>>>> are exceptions. The airlines always weasel into a loophole.
>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-regulations-
>>>>>>> highlights
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were close to
>>>>>> bankruptcy because of all the covid disruption....
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed on the
>>>>> government who gave them money to stay afloat during covid. They
>>>>> used the money to buy back their stock and whined for more money.
>>>>
>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state owned?
>>> I think the government got a small percentage of shares as part of
>>> the covid bailout package.
>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as flex-time...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work purposes which it
>>>>>>>>> isn't anymore because they had MS Teams installed on all our
>>>>>>>>> laptops. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to consider... Air
>>>>>>>> travel should logically be much more expensive than train. And
>>>>>>>> if ever an equitable CO2 charge is implemented it will be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My internet could
>>>>>>> randomly disconnect during boring meetings or I can play Candy
>>>>>>> Crush. Also, if my camera is off, no one can see me rolling my
>>>>>>> eyes. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush with the sound
>>>>>> off, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>
>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your surroundings aware that you
>>>> play the game.
>>>
>>> So I made the right choice.
>>
>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to know, yes...
>> It would be a power-move if you turned the sound on when someone
>> starts babbling about something irrelevant (not that that ever happens
>> at meetings).
>>
> 
> Yep. Never happens.
> People also never circle back to something that discussed 20 minutes ago 
> and settled. I leave my body a lot at meetings.

And that's when someone suggests something out of the blue that's going
to cause you a lot of headache and needless work...

-- 
BeH

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