Re: Heating woes

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]: 
>> 
>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]: 
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>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13.05.2023 13.13,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merlyne 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [pruned]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [how spring-like]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['tis the season to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pruny] >>>>>>>>>> [pruny sounds like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>> one  stays in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathtub 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too >> long] >>> [pruny sounds is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >> happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>> restroom when you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>eat >>>> too >>>> many >> prunes.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I have nothing to add to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that] >>>>>>>>> [And here I thought it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>> good >>> conversation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>starter.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How >>>>>> many >> prunes is too many? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>eat a >>>> few >> every >> day] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If either you or your detritus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is >>>>>>> running 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have had too many.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You could say that about most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I  once ate an entire bag of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>black >>>>>> licorce 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one sitting. Not advisable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in moderation except
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>moderation...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Licorice is great for raising
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your >>>>> blood pressure as well as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>delicious. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also unmoderated moderation gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really > boring after a while.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Does it? Colour me boring then]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll check if they have that next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time > I'm in the paint store.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I was hoping you were going to use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marker] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The only markers I have are black or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> red - neither of those are boring] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What do you consider boring? Grey?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [As colours go. Beige, off-white...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything that looks like it's been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> washed too many times] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe I already look like I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> washed too much] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Is that why you think you have a boring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colour?] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It was more about moderation]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Sometimes you just have to go all out. Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in... something like that] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [My brane hurts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You really should get one of those brane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massage thingies] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Which?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The ones with the wires and the little balls...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: Expecting a ].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Aren't those for massaging the scalp?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, you obviously have to remove the top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scull first for the best results]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's always a catch. First you need the massage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thingie and then you get it out of the box and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need a Stryker saw. At this point, I've already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened the box, so I can't send it back for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refund. The replacement blades for that thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't cheap. Then I get part way around and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realize I can't get my skull undone at the back] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe the friendly people at the hardware store can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help you out. If I buy wood I can get it cut to size
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for DKK50 per cut...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I don't want someone who cuts wood for a living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing around with my  skull]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You should have some faith in your fellow human, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure they are perfectly competent. And willing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sanitise the blade for a nominal fee.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Hard pass]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If you prefer. But you don't know where that blade has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*runs away*]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There really is no way to please you, is there?]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Not when it comes to opening my head with a rusty blade,
>>>>>>>>>>>> no} 
>>>>>>>>>>> *crying and shaking from TWO unbalanced parenthesises*
>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>> [The rusty part is on you, though, if you won't pay the
>>>>>>>>>>> cleaning fee] 
>>>>>>>>>> [Can I borrow some money? I'm a bit short right now]
>>>>>>>>> [Doesn't your health insurance cover de-rusting?]
>>>>>>>> [I doubt it. It covers only the essentials, not cosmetic
>>>>>>>> things] 
>>>>>>> [You could argue that not un-rusting the saw is an infection
>>>>>>> risk, so it could be more expensive in the long run.]
>>>>>> [Have you every tried to argue with an insurance company?]
>>>>> [Nope. But I'm sure they are all nice people with your best
>>>>> interest in mind.]
>>>> [I'm sure their profits are ahead of my welfare]
>>> [It must be a miserable life to have mindset like that. But that's
>>> CAPITALISM for you]
>> [Money makes the world go around. I feel a song coming on]
> [Is it the Internationale? Or maybe Le Marseillaise? Beneath the Red
> Banner?]
[Nope]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [semantics no more]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Huh?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Left on the editor's floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I must have misunderstood the editor. I thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he said my dress would look good on the floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I would think that's more of a producer's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comment. Anyway that sort of thing doesn't happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any more. There was that scandal in the 30's, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think, and then all that nonsense stopped.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yeah, right. I used to sit beside the IT cluster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back in the 80's. They harrassed me (and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> women) every day. Well, the ones who weren't too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scared to talk to a girl did.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That must be a uniquely Canadian thing. Something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that would never happen here. Except for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head of a major union. She had to resign recently,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amid accusations of bullying and harassment. And the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigwig in one of the political parties who 'elected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to spend more time with his family' or something not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long ago.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By harassment, I meant sexual harassment. I used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laugh it off. Nowadays the comments would be reported
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to HR.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Both examples above included/consisted of sexual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassment. People who gain power think they can get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away with stuff. Down with power.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I've never had my job threatened]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Try harassing someone. That may work.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The harrassment courses that we to take don't give any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tips on how to harrass someone.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure they do. All the stuff where it says 'Don't do this'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - do that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't really do that anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The first time we took it, it was in a classroom. People
>>>>>>>>>>>> where asking too many questions. Having met other people, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that scheduling everybody into a session is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> logistical nightmare. They switched it to an online course
>>>>>>>>>>>> with case studies. One was about a woman who took a lower
>>>>>>>>>>>> paying job in a department after being harrassed by a
>>>>>>>>>>>> coworker. The coworker was another woman who was mean to
>>>>>>>>>>>> her and said things like 'I'm sick of covering for you' and
>>>>>>>>>>>> shoved the first woman into the wall when they were alone
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the washroom and stuff like that. It probably triggered
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone. Now the course is online and focuses on the broad
>>>>>>>>>>>> definition of harrassment and what you should do if you are
>>>>>>>>>>>> harrassed and the steps of the process to resolve the
>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like it's the victims responsibility now.
>>>>>>>>>> I think they don't take it seriously unless there are
>>>>>>>>>> witnesses and stuff. Otherwise it turns into one of those
>>>>>>>>>> he-said-she-said things. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One radical idea I just came up with is just not have
>>>>>>>>>>> harassers going around in the work environment harassing
>>>>>>>>>>> people... 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                      /don't
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you control other people especially bullies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I missed a word, which I do often since I think faster than I
>>>>>>>> type. Let's go with that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Somebody surely controls whether they are/remain employed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. But you have a prove a case with Labour Relations and then
>>>>>>>> it will go to arbitration and the bully will be given a chance
>>>>>>>> to improve. The union will fight any dismissals. It's really
>>>>>>>> hard to rid of people. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But if they spend their time bullying other people they can't
>>>>>>> also be doing their job properly... So fire them for
>>>>>>> incompetence. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah. That is also an uphill battle. *sigh*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Years ago, a co-worker spent time in jail because he molested
>>>>>>>>>> a kid at his wife's daycare. The day before he came back, we
>>>>>>>>>> were all herded into the boardroom and told that mentioning
>>>>>>>>>> his crime or being mean to him was harrassment and anyone
>>>>>>>>>> doing so would be fired. The system works.
>>>>>>>>> Clearly...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So not the guy assigned to look after the kids at the company
>>>>>>>>> picnic, I take it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would advise against it. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are so wise...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the glasses, isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> That, and the professional attire.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't mock the yoga pants!
>>>
>>> I'm not. Not at all. I'm all in favour of yoga pants. (Not on me,
>>> though) 
>>>
>> 
>> I do wear casual business attire on the days when I go into the
>> office. But I change into my pajamas as soon as I get home.
> 
> Exactly. Who doesn't look wise in pajamas?
> 

I look comfy. And probably tired.
The 'wise' part is from the glasses and silver hair.
Pretty sure.