Re: Spiderman movies

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> On 13.08.2023 23.28, Merlyne wrote:
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>>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the quality of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my naturally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work outside your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comfort zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem, since I have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intention of leaving the zone. Someone needs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invent remote braining or something.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is hardly a viable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday prophet is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it all come to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing because of a stupid doomsday...]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday, now? I'm not
>>>>>>>>> buying a pair of shoes that I can only use once.]
>>>>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try that]
>>>>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand sneakers are
>>>>>>> stupid expensive - and also doesn't last very well.]
>>>>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very well]
>>>>> [And we all know why that is...]
>>>> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
>>> [By jove I think she's got it...]
>> [Who,by jove, is jove?]
> [A nickname for Jehova/Jahve, probably... you could ask Alan Lerner if
> he was still alive.]
[Huh? Not looking it up]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nylon >>>> jobs >>> they sell for all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hallows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably get a whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch >> of >>>> different ones at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WalMart for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt it, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would >>>> they go 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800 handbag is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter. People wear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people assume your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off if you use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > a nylon wig. And then what's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> point. >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they think it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will think your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > a cheap knock-off. I can only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the country club
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bar... >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like someone's taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an  interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds of interest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned this kind will damage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your > social standing. You might even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be > invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail parties... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely 0 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it even possible to get invited to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-1  parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is possible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send out 'do not attend' notices to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who are uniquely unwelcome. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happens much in cocktail party
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. I don't even like cocktails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess mocktails now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper' cocktail was many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago when a co-worker an I decided to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try everything on the menu in the bar on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oslo ferry. It went as well as could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work may have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a tiny but sub-par the next day...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got your credit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> card statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The company I worked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for didn't give out standard per-diem amounts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so everything we had a receipt for got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refunded... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting receipts for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and list and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submit all those receipts every month. I suspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it cost me quite a lot of money, too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills and possibly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even plane tickets. Anyway it's the principle! I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have been required to do accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of receipts to an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the expenses form along
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the relevant account no. and identification of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each receipt, which also had to be handed in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being submitted on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form and then attach the receipts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at least I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmental impact of air-travel. In any case it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was more the being in different places than the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting there that was enjoyable. Although I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to try riding on one of those VeryBigFastness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trains they have in France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booked a seat. I couldn't afford to travel for a long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. Now I find it stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's stressful, as it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the planning and preparation. Just don't do that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the arriving at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airport at 5 am only to find out that the airline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over-booked the flight etc, etc that is stressful. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also don't fly well or sleep well when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overbooking is not within your control, so have some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breakfast and look derisively at all the stressed people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the airport. The hotel bar has remedies for not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleeping well... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer (alcohol content
>>>>>>>>>>>>> optional). The vitamin B will relax you and possibly make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise) and I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in it...
>>>>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when flying. Also
>>>>>>>>> they don't dispense pharmaceuticals at the departure hall bar.
>>>>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a night on the
>>>>>>>> town people wake up parched.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also possibly the
>>>>>>> physical activity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>>>>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and the social
>>>>> interacting, and the dancing, and the mating rites, and the
>>>>> walking home... It can be quite exhausting. So I've heard.
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember.
>>>
>>> You must have seen it in movies and such.
>> 
>> I don't remember a movie with drunk people talking about how
>> exhausting it is to walk home after dancing.
> You were probably supposed to infer it from the exhaustedness
> displayed by whichever actor was doing the walking home after dancing.
> As they say in the storytelling business: 'show don't tell'.

Clearly, they are all bad actors.

>> Maybe I need another hint.
> I don't know any more that you do...
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight. If we go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a conference, it's usually in Toronto or we fly from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toronto so we have to get the first flight out of here in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the morning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I know this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a fact. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train takes 3-4 hours
>>>>>>>>>>>> to get there (vs. 50 minutes for the plane) and the train
>>>>>>>>>>>> station is another hour away from the airport.
>>>>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the distance to the
>>>>>>>>>>> airport is because train stations are inside cities, often
>>>>>>>>>>> really close to where you want to be, so that time should be
>>>>>>>>>>> added to air travel time, as should the 'hours' you have to
>>>>>>>>>>> be at the airport before departure. Given a reasonable
>>>>>>>>>>> number of departures, train journeys (even non-high-speed
>>>>>>>>>>> trains) will end-to-end mostly be faster than air travel up
>>>>>>>>>>> to 400-500Km. Also you have the whole travel time available
>>>>>>>>>>> unbroken for whatever (even work if so inclined). And more
>>>>>>>>>>> leg-room. And usually a table big enough for a laptop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often cancelled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now at the last minute. It's not a problem at if I'm at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the local airport, but if I'm trying to get home, it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge problem. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European airlines [used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to] hand out cash and/or vouchers for meals and hotel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stays in those cases. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their power to fight
>>>>>>>>>>>> that. Since covid, they have been short-staffed and
>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore frequently cancel flights at the last minute.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules for that sort
>>>>>>>>>>> of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for every rule
>>>>>>>>>> there are exceptions. The airlines always weasel into a
>>>>>>>>>> loophole. 
>>>>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-
regulations
>>>>>>>>>> - highlights
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were close to
>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy because of all the covid disruption....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed on the
>>>>>>>> government who gave them money to stay afloat during covid.
>>>>>>>> They used the money to buy back their stock and whined for more
>>>>>>>> money. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state owned?
>>>>>> I think the government got a small percentage of shares as part
>>>>>> of the covid bailout package.
>>>>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as flex-time...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work purposes which it
>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't anymore because they had MS Teams installed on all
>>>>>>>>>>>> our laptops. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to consider...
>>>>>>>>>>> Air travel should logically be much more expensive than
>>>>>>>>>>> train. And if ever an equitable CO2 charge is implemented it
>>>>>>>>>>> will be. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My internet could
>>>>>>>>>> randomly disconnect during boring meetings or I can play
>>>>>>>>>> Candy Crush. Also, if my camera is off, no one can see me
>>>>>>>>>> rolling my eyes. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush with the
>>>>>>>>> sound off, though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your surroundings aware that
>>>>>>> you play the game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I made the right choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to know,
>>>>> yes... It would be a power-move if you turned the sound on when
>>>>> someone starts babbling about something irrelevant (not that that
>>>>> ever happens at meetings).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep. Never happens.
>>>> People also never circle back to something that discussed 20
>>>> minutes ago and settled. I leave my body a lot at meetings.
>>>
>>> And that's when someone suggests something out of the blue that's
>>> going to cause you a lot of headache and needless work...
>>>
>> 
>> Or the whole meeting was scheduled so that someone could ask me to do
>> something that will be a headache and cause me a lot of needless work
>> in front of my supervisor. As if that would make me do it.
> 
> In that case maybe you should be unavailable for that meeting.
> 

No! They need to be told No!
If I'm not there my supervisor will volunteer me.