Re: Spiderman movies

On 18.08.2023 14.51, Merlyne wrote:
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>> On 13.08.2023 23.28, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the quality of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my naturally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work outside your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comfort zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem, since I have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intention of leaving the zone. Someone needs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invent remote braining or something.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is hardly a viable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday prophet is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it all come to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing because of a stupid doomsday...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday, now? I'm not
>>>>>>>>>> buying a pair of shoes that I can only use once.]
>>>>>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try that]
>>>>>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand sneakers are
>>>>>>>> stupid expensive - and also doesn't last very well.]
>>>>>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very well]
>>>>>> [And we all know why that is...]
>>>>> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
>>>> [By jove I think she's got it...]
>>> [Who,by jove, is jove?]
>> [A nickname for Jehova/Jahve, probably... you could ask Alan Lerner if
>> he was still alive.]
> [Huh? Not looking it up]
[Okay then]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nylon >>>> jobs >>> they sell for all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hallows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably get a whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch >> of >>>> different ones at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WalMart for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt it, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>> they go 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800 handbag is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter. People wear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people assume your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off if you use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > a nylon wig. And then what's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> point. >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they think it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will think your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > a cheap knock-off. I can only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the country club
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bar... >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like someone's taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an  interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds of interest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned this kind will damage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your > social standing. You might even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail parties... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely 0 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it even possible to get invited to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1  parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is possible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send out 'do not attend' notices to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who are uniquely unwelcome. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happens much in cocktail party
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. I don't even like cocktails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess mocktails now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper' cocktail was many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago when a co-worker an I decided to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try everything on the menu in the bar on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oslo ferry. It went as well as could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work may have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a tiny but sub-par the next day...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got your credit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> card statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The company I worked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for didn't give out standard per-diem amounts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so everything we had a receipt for got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refunded... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting receipts for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and list and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submit all those receipts every month. I suspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it cost me quite a lot of money, too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills and possibly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even plane tickets. Anyway it's the principle! I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have been required to do accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of receipts to an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the expenses form along
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the relevant account no. and identification of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each receipt, which also had to be handed in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being submitted on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form and then attach the receipts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at least I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmental impact of air-travel. In any case it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was more the being in different places than the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting there that was enjoyable. Although I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to try riding on one of those VeryBigFastness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trains they have in France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booked a seat. I couldn't afford to travel for a long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. Now I find it stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's stressful, as it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the planning and preparation. Just don't do that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the arriving at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airport at 5 am only to find out that the airline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over-booked the flight etc, etc that is stressful. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also don't fly well or sleep well when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overbooking is not within your control, so have some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breakfast and look derisively at all the stressed people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the airport. The hotel bar has remedies for not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleeping well... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer (alcohol content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optional). The vitamin B will relax you and possibly make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise) and I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in it...
>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when flying. Also
>>>>>>>>>> they don't dispense pharmaceuticals at the departure hall bar.
>>>>>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a night on the
>>>>>>>>> town people wake up parched.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also possibly the
>>>>>>>> physical activity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>>>>>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and the social
>>>>>> interacting, and the dancing, and the mating rites, and the
>>>>>> walking home... It can be quite exhausting. So I've heard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't remember.
>>>>
>>>> You must have seen it in movies and such.
>>>
>>> I don't remember a movie with drunk people talking about how
>>> exhausting it is to walk home after dancing.
>> You were probably supposed to infer it from the exhaustedness
>> displayed by whichever actor was doing the walking home after dancing.
>> As they say in the storytelling business: 'show don't tell'.
> 
> Clearly, they are all bad actors.
Or maybe you just haven't seen any movies with drunk people walking home
after dancing.

>>> Maybe I need another hint.
>> I don't know any more that you do...
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight. If we go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a conference, it's usually in Toronto or we fly from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toronto so we have to get the first flight out of here in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the morning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I know this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a fact. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train takes 3-4 hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get there (vs. 50 minutes for the plane) and the train
>>>>>>>>>>>>> station is another hour away from the airport.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the distance to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> airport is because train stations are inside cities, often
>>>>>>>>>>>> really close to where you want to be, so that time should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> added to air travel time, as should the 'hours' you have to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be at the airport before departure. Given a reasonable
>>>>>>>>>>>> number of departures, train journeys (even non-high-speed
>>>>>>>>>>>> trains) will end-to-end mostly be faster than air travel up
>>>>>>>>>>>> to 400-500Km. Also you have the whole travel time available
>>>>>>>>>>>> unbroken for whatever (even work if so inclined). And more
>>>>>>>>>>>> leg-room. And usually a table big enough for a laptop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often cancelled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now at the last minute. It's not a problem at if I'm at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the local airport, but if I'm trying to get home, it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge problem. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European airlines [used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to] hand out cash and/or vouchers for meals and hotel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stays in those cases. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their power to fight
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. Since covid, they have been short-staffed and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore frequently cancel flights at the last minute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules for that sort
>>>>>>>>>>>> of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for every rule
>>>>>>>>>>> there are exceptions. The airlines always weasel into a
>>>>>>>>>>> loophole. 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-
> regulations
>>>>>>>>>>> - highlights
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were close to
>>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy because of all the covid disruption....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed on the
>>>>>>>>> government who gave them money to stay afloat during covid.
>>>>>>>>> They used the money to buy back their stock and whined for more
>>>>>>>>> money. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state owned?
>>>>>>> I think the government got a small percentage of shares as part
>>>>>>> of the covid bailout package.
>>>>>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as flex-time...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work purposes which it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't anymore because they had MS Teams installed on all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our laptops. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to consider...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Air travel should logically be much more expensive than
>>>>>>>>>>>> train. And if ever an equitable CO2 charge is implemented it
>>>>>>>>>>>> will be. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My internet could
>>>>>>>>>>> randomly disconnect during boring meetings or I can play
>>>>>>>>>>> Candy Crush. Also, if my camera is off, no one can see me
>>>>>>>>>>> rolling my eyes. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush with the
>>>>>>>>>> sound off, though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your surroundings aware that
>>>>>>>> you play the game.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I made the right choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to know,
>>>>>> yes... It would be a power-move if you turned the sound on when
>>>>>> someone starts babbling about something irrelevant (not that that
>>>>>> ever happens at meetings).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Never happens.
>>>>> People also never circle back to something that discussed 20
>>>>> minutes ago and settled. I leave my body a lot at meetings.
>>>>
>>>> And that's when someone suggests something out of the blue that's
>>>> going to cause you a lot of headache and needless work...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or the whole meeting was scheduled so that someone could ask me to do
>>> something that will be a headache and cause me a lot of needless work
>>> in front of my supervisor. As if that would make me do it.
>>
>> In that case maybe you should be unavailable for that meeting.
>>
> 
> No! They need to be told No!
> If I'm not there my supervisor will volunteer me.
Well that's easy enough solved. Just tell your supervisor 'No'. Maybe
write them a post-it note if they have trouble with aural retention.

-- 
BeH

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