Re: 14th

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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> On 18.08.2023 14.51, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]: 
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>>> On 13.08.2023 23.28, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]: 
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>>>>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [Snippage achieved]
>>>>>> [Huzzah!]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was interrupted by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>> scraping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound from outside. Turned out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>> was >>> the deer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>contemplating 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> open >> door >> to > the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>garden. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It ran >> off when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got >> up; > just as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I don't have any deer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snacks... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The deer never come close to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>> house >> here. I'm pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sure the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deer >> would >> like  to snack on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever's in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> garden. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does. Meandering about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sampling 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>> various leaves and 'wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature >>>> plants' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless I disturb it... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank gawd you didn't plant a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garden >>>> yet. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that would have been so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tragic. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> might have not got any yield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from >> it. >>> Much like last year. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people > with many fruit trees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deer eating the bark and kill the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> young > trees. I suppose that is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid >>> concern. What 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they do to a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few leaves off the hedge or a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perennials 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or two is no concern of mine...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They >>>>> always seem to survive. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They eat fleshy plants here. Like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my >>>> tulips. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think they have ever eaten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any >>> tulips from me. They mostly go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> green stuff. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tulip leaves are green. It's like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lettuce 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for deer. Of course now there are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of bears in the neighbourhood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They mostly go for the petals, don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this another bizarre Danish joke?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. It's not bizarre. Also lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flowers 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have edible petals. They a sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used in salads and such. Bears like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> salad, I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe. Right now they seem to be going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the birdfeeders. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy food is the best food.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stay out of my birdfeeder!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell that to the bears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *opens window*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *yells 'Hey bears, stay out of my birdfeeder*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The birdfeeders are in the garage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you get many garage birds? Mine is too but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's because I only feed the birds in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> winter. This time of year they steal all my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cherries - ripe or not. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putting the birdfeeder in the garage is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interim (and temporary) measure to dissuade the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bears. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how resistant your garage is, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard of bears ripping out doors if the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reward (or need) is high enough. Good luck with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen any bears sightings in the area
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while. It worked. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's good then. Unless the bears are having a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tactical pause while they wait for the birdfeeder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to re-appear... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they've hacked my wifi and have ordered their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own seeds. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be alright though, wouldn't it? Unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they used your credit card to pay for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which could happen if they get into my Amazon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. Oh deer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not deer, bears. I doubt deer are good haxors, what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the hooves instead .of hands. Also the antlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to knock over the screen when they look down on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the keyboard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They need to get cellphones so they can say 'Alexa, buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me some birdseed and a mink coat'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who Alexa is, but they still need to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to dial the number first...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they don't. That's how Alexa works. You talk to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone and it does stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's Siri, innit? Or GoOoOogle, maybe. Anyway they need
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to unlock the phone first, and I don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> face-recognition works very well with bear-faced
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seed-stealers. 
>>>>>>>>>>> [
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't use face recognition on my phone. It would be hard
>>>>>>>>>>>> for them to guess and then type my pin. they'd have to use
>>>>>>>>>>>> a twig which I imagine would be hard to hold onto without
>>>>>>>>>>>> opposable thumbs] 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bears could use a claw possibly. If they were careful.
>>>>>>>>>>> Bearclaws are very pointy and sharp. The kind attached to
>>>>>>>>>>> bear arms; not the pastry kind. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now I want a pastry :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There you go. I'm sure it's all very healthy:
>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wienerbr%C3%
>>>>>>>> B8d&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&
>>>>>>>>> ia=images 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A lot of good a picture will do me.
>>>>>>>> Anyways, I bought some 2-bite apple turnover thingees at the
>>>>>>>> store. 
>>>>>>> I'm sure they were good too, for what they were.
>>>>>>> 2-bite? As in tiny ones?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are small.
>>>>>> Perfect for when you need something sweet but don't want to eat a
>>>>>> big slab of pie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't that what fruit is for?
>>>>
>>>> What if your not in the mood for fruit?
>>>> What if you want caek or pie?
>>>
>>> What if eating cake or pie is highly discouraged?
>> 
>> I'm sure it's on no country's food pyramid.
> The baker's guild begs to differ.

They can beg all they want. Cake and pie will never get on the pyramid.
> 
>>> What if you need all the vitamin C you can get?
>> 
>> I eat lots of fruit during the day. And broccoli.
>> If you get too much vitamin C, you pee it out.
> If only the broccoli poison were that easy to get rid of as well.

Ugh! Not this again!
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe if you fed the birds in the summer, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't take your cherries. They tend to steal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> berries like raspberries and blueberries. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is bird netting that can be purchased to keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them away from the fruit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> q=bird+netting&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds, insect larva or mildew - the result is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same: not very many cherries for me. At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least with the birds I have the pleasure of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being woken up very, very early by their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maniacal chirping... And 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bird poop on the windows. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are worse ways to be woken up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly. Like the neighbour speaking to her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mother - at festival volume. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or snoring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the cat barfing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could go on and on...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a barfing cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should definitely get one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need. I already have the birds and the neighbour.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And also the neighbours hysterical smushy faced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mutt... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behold! The pugliest dog in the world!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For sleeping soundlessly through the night, I'm a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge fan of ear plugs. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you are missing all the birdsong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given that the windows haven't been open at night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some time due to air quality warnings and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hot, humid weather, I'm probably missing a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outdoor sounds. Not that I'd hear them. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That global climate change has a lot to answer for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I won't hear the answer because of the ear plugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can read about it in the paper later...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one reads newspapers anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are on-line versions. On the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, no reads newspapers anymore. They get their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news from social media. Except in Canada where Meta had a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big fight with the government. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get with the Times...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No thanks, that's a Murdock paper now... I don't read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff like that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember Bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ehh, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh dear!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What!!?! Who is bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It was a tabloid thing back in the day.
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Boy_(character)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm shocked - shocked I tell you - to learn that a newspaper
>>>>>>>>> would just make up a story, with no regard for the integrity
>>>>>>>>> of the press. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you aren't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That may or may not have been sarcastic...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was fake outrage.
>>>>>
>>>>> The outrage is real. The shock maybe not so much.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see. Batboy enrages you. Noted.
>>>
>>> Not Batboy as such - the lack of clarity about the fact that Batboy
>>> was wholly fictional.
>>>
>> It's pretty obvious, no?
>> Although, I'm sure there are a few kooks who believe he is real.
>> *shrug*
> I refer you to the case of the radio dramatisation of H.G. Wells' "The
> War of the Worlds".
> 
Yes, yes...

> There is also the ancient dictum (about writing manuals): Don't write
> to be understood - write to not be *mis*understood.
> 
I always write user guide like the audience is a 6 year old.
Even then (with screenshots) people mess things up.
I had a math professor that told me: it's not that people can't do math, 
they just can't read.
Ah...the lost art of reading...