Re: 14th

On 24.08.2023 16.55, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>> On 18.08.2023 14.51, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>> On 13.08.2023 23.28, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [Snippage achieved]
>>>>>>> [Huzzah!]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was interrupted by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> scraping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound from outside. Turned out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>> was >>> the deer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contemplating 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> open >> door >> to > the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garden. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It ran >> off when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got >> up; > just as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I don't have any deer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snacks... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The deer never come close to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>> house >> here. I'm pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deer >> would >> like  to snack on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever's in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> garden. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does. Meandering about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sampling 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>> various leaves and 'wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature >>>> plants' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless I disturb it... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank gawd you didn't plant a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garden >>>> yet. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that would have been so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tragic. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> might have not got any yield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >from >> it. >>> Much like last year. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people > with many fruit trees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deer eating the bark and kill the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> young > trees. I suppose that is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid >>> concern. What 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they do to a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few leaves off the hedge or a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perennials 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or two is no concern of mine...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They >>>>> always seem to survive. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They eat fleshy plants here. Like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>> tulips. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think they have ever eaten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>> tulips from me. They mostly go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> green stuff. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tulip leaves are green. It's like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lettuce 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for deer. Of course now there are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of bears in the neighbourhood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They mostly go for the petals, don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this another bizarre Danish joke?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. It's not bizarre. Also lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flowers 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have edible petals. They a sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used in salads and such. Bears like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> salad, I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe. Right now they seem to be going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the birdfeeders. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy food is the best food.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stay out of my birdfeeder!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell that to the bears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *opens window*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *yells 'Hey bears, stay out of my birdfeeder*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The birdfeeders are in the garage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you get many garage birds? Mine is too but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's because I only feed the birds in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> winter. This time of year they steal all my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cherries - ripe or not. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putting the birdfeeder in the garage is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interim (and temporary) measure to dissuade the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bears. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how resistant your garage is, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard of bears ripping out doors if the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reward (or need) is high enough. Good luck with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen any bears sightings in the area
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while. It worked. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's good then. Unless the bears are having a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tactical pause while they wait for the birdfeeder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to re-appear... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they've hacked my wifi and have ordered their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own seeds. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be alright though, wouldn't it? Unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they used your credit card to pay for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which could happen if they get into my Amazon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. Oh deer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not deer, bears. I doubt deer are good haxors, what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the hooves instead .of hands. Also the antlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to knock over the screen when they look down on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the keyboard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They need to get cellphones so they can say 'Alexa, buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me some birdseed and a mink coat'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who Alexa is, but they still need to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to dial the number first...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they don't. That's how Alexa works. You talk to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone and it does stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's Siri, innit? Or GoOoOogle, maybe. Anyway they need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to unlock the phone first, and I don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face-recognition works very well with bear-faced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seed-stealers. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't use face recognition on my phone. It would be hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for them to guess and then type my pin. they'd have to use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a twig which I imagine would be hard to hold onto without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposable thumbs] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bears could use a claw possibly. If they were careful.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bearclaws are very pointy and sharp. The kind attached to
>>>>>>>>>>>> bear arms; not the pastry kind. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now I want a pastry :(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There you go. I'm sure it's all very healthy:
>>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wienerbr%C3%
>>>>>>>>> B8d&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&
>>>>>>>>>> ia=images 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A lot of good a picture will do me.
>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I bought some 2-bite apple turnover thingees at the
>>>>>>>>> store. 
>>>>>>>> I'm sure they were good too, for what they were.
>>>>>>>> 2-bite? As in tiny ones?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are small.
>>>>>>> Perfect for when you need something sweet but don't want to eat a
>>>>>>> big slab of pie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't that what fruit is for?
>>>>>
>>>>> What if your not in the mood for fruit?
>>>>> What if you want caek or pie?
>>>>
>>>> What if eating cake or pie is highly discouraged?
>>>
>>> I'm sure it's on no country's food pyramid.
>> The baker's guild begs to differ.
> 
> They can beg all they want. Cake and pie will never get on the pyramid.
But I'm certain there was plenty of delicious baked goods *in* the pyramids.

>>>> What if you need all the vitamin C you can get?
>>>
>>> I eat lots of fruit during the day. And broccoli.
>>> If you get too much vitamin C, you pee it out.
>> If only the broccoli poison were that easy to get rid of as well.
> 
> Ugh! Not this again!
Right. Abolish broccoli.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe if you fed the birds in the summer, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't take your cherries. They tend to steal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> berries like raspberries and blueberries. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is bird netting that can be purchased to keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them away from the fruit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> q=bird+netting&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds, insect larva or mildew - the result is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same: not very many cherries for me. At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least with the birds I have the pleasure of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being woken up very, very early by their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maniacal chirping... And 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bird poop on the windows. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are worse ways to be woken up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly. Like the neighbour speaking to her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mother - at festival volume. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or snoring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the cat barfing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could go on and on...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a barfing cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should definitely get one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need. I already have the birds and the neighbour.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And also the neighbours hysterical smushy faced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mutt... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behold! The pugliest dog in the world!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For sleeping soundlessly through the night, I'm a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge fan of ear plugs. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you are missing all the birdsong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given that the windows haven't been open at night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some time due to air quality warnings and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hot, humid weather, I'm probably missing a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outdoor sounds. Not that I'd hear them. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That global climate change has a lot to answer for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I won't hear the answer because of the ear plugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can read about it in the paper later...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one reads newspapers anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are on-line versions. On the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, no reads newspapers anymore. They get their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news from social media. Except in Canada where Meta had a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big fight with the government. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get with the Times...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No thanks, that's a Murdock paper now... I don't read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff like that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember Bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ehh, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh dear!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What!!?! Who is bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It was a tabloid thing back in the day.
>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Boy_(character)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm shocked - shocked I tell you - to learn that a newspaper
>>>>>>>>>> would just make up a story, with no regard for the integrity
>>>>>>>>>> of the press. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, you aren't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That may or may not have been sarcastic...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought it was fake outrage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The outrage is real. The shock maybe not so much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I see. Batboy enrages you. Noted.
>>>>
>>>> Not Batboy as such - the lack of clarity about the fact that Batboy
>>>> was wholly fictional.
>>>>
>>> It's pretty obvious, no?
>>> Although, I'm sure there are a few kooks who believe he is real.
>>> *shrug*
>> I refer you to the case of the radio dramatisation of H.G. Wells' "The
>> War of the Worlds".
>>
> Yes, yes...
> 
>> There is also the ancient dictum (about writing manuals): Don't write
>> to be understood - write to not be *mis*understood.
>>
> I always write user guide like the audience is a 6 year old.
> Even then (with screenshots) people mess things up.
> I had a math professor that told me: it's not that people can't do math, 
> they just can't read.
> Ah...the lost art of reading...

Speaking of... I just finished The Clan of the Cave Bear. All 587 pages
of it. That's a lot of words. Not all of them strictly necessary in my
opinion...

-- 
BeH

" We are trapped by language to such a degree that every attempt to
formulate insight is a play on words." - Niels Bohr