Re: 14th

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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> On 24.08.2023 16.55, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>> On 18.08.2023 14.51, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>> On 13.08.2023 23.28, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [Snippage achieved]
>>>>>>>> [Huzzah!]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was interrupted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by >> a >>>>>>>> scraping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound from outside. Turned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out >>>> it >>>> was >>> the deer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contemplating 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> open >> door >> to > the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garden. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It ran >> off when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got >> up; > just as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I don't have any deer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snacks... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The deer never come close to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>> house >> here. I'm pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deer >> would >> like  to snack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on >>>>>> whatever's in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> garden. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does. Meandering about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sampling 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>> various leaves and 'wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature >>>> plants' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless I disturb it... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank gawd you didn't plant a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garden >>>> yet. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that would have been so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tragic. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> might have not got any yield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >from >> it. >>> Much like last year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I >>>> understand 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people > with many fruit trees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deer eating the bark and kill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>> young > trees. I suppose that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is a >>>> valid >>> concern. What 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they do to a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few leaves off the hedge or a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perennials 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or two is no concern of mine...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They >>>>> always seem to survive. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They eat fleshy plants here. Like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>> tulips. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think they have ever eaten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>> tulips from me. They mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>go >> for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> green stuff. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tulip leaves are green. It's like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lettuce 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for deer. Of course now there are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of bears in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>neighbourhood. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They mostly go for the petals, don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this another bizarre Danish joke?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. It's not bizarre. Also lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flowers 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have edible petals. They a sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used in salads and such. Bears like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> salad, I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe. Right now they seem to be going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the birdfeeders. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy food is the best food.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stay out of my birdfeeder!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell that to the bears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *opens window*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *yells 'Hey bears, stay out of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> birdfeeder* The birdfeeders are in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garage. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you get many garage birds? Mine is too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but that's because I only feed the birds in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the winter. This time of year they steal all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my cherries - ripe or not. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putting the birdfeeder in the garage is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interim (and temporary) measure to dissuade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bears. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how resistant your garage is, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard of bears ripping out doors if the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reward (or need) is high enough. Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen any bears sightings in the area
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while. It worked. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's good then. Unless the bears are having a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tactical pause while they wait for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> birdfeeder to re-appear... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they've hacked my wifi and have ordered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own seeds. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be alright though, wouldn't it? Unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they used your credit card to pay for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which could happen if they get into my Amazon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. Oh deer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not deer, bears. I doubt deer are good haxors, what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the hooves instead .of hands. Also the antlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to knock over the screen when they look down on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the keyboard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They need to get cellphones so they can say 'Alexa,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy me some birdseed and a mink coat'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who Alexa is, but they still need to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to dial the number first...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they don't. That's how Alexa works. You talk to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone and it does stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's Siri, innit? Or GoOoOogle, maybe. Anyway they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to unlock the phone first, and I don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face-recognition works very well with bear-faced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seed-stealers. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't use face recognition on my phone. It would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard for them to guess and then type my pin. they'd have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use a twig which I imagine would be hard to hold onto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without opposable thumbs] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bears could use a claw possibly. If they were careful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bearclaws are very pointy and sharp. The kind attached to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bear arms; not the pastry kind. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I want a pastry :(
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There you go. I'm sure it's all very healthy:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wienerbr%C3%
>>>>>>>>>> B8d&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&
>>>>>>>>>>> ia=images 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A lot of good a picture will do me.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I bought some 2-bite apple turnover thingees at the
>>>>>>>>>> store. 
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure they were good too, for what they were.
>>>>>>>>> 2-bite? As in tiny ones?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are small.
>>>>>>>> Perfect for when you need something sweet but don't want to eat
>>>>>>>> a big slab of pie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isn't that what fruit is for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What if your not in the mood for fruit?
>>>>>> What if you want caek or pie?
>>>>>
>>>>> What if eating cake or pie is highly discouraged?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure it's on no country's food pyramid.
>>> The baker's guild begs to differ.
>> 
>> They can beg all they want. Cake and pie will never get on the
>> pyramid. 
> But I'm certain there was plenty of delicious baked goods *in* the
> pyramids. 

Like what?
Something their Mummy made?
Ramen noodles?
Fruit of the Tomb?

> 
>>>>> What if you need all the vitamin C you can get?
>>>>
>>>> I eat lots of fruit during the day. And broccoli.
>>>> If you get too much vitamin C, you pee it out.
>>> If only the broccoli poison were that easy to get rid of as well.
>> 
>> Ugh! Not this again!
> Right. Abolish broccoli.
Just accept it's existence and move on.
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe if you fed the birds in the summer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they wouldn't take your cherries. They tend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to steal berries like raspberries and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blueberries. There 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is bird netting that can be purchased to keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them away from the fruit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> q=bird+netting&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds, insect larva or mildew - the result is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same: not very many cherries for me. At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least with the birds I have the pleasure of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being woken up very, very early by their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maniacal chirping... And 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bird poop on the windows. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are worse ways to be woken up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly. Like the neighbour speaking to her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mother - at festival volume. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or snoring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the cat barfing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could go on and on...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a barfing cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should definitely get one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need. I already have the birds and the neighbour.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And also the neighbours hysterical smushy faced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mutt... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behold! The pugliest dog in the world!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For sleeping soundlessly through the night, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a huge fan of ear plugs. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you are missing all the birdsong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given that the windows haven't been open at night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some time due to air quality warnings and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hot, humid weather, I'm probably missing a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outdoor sounds. Not that I'd hear them. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That global climate change has a lot to answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I won't hear the answer because of the ear plugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can read about it in the paper later...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one reads newspapers anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are on-line versions. On the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, no reads newspapers anymore. They get their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news from social media. Except in Canada where Meta had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a big fight with the government. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get with the Times...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No thanks, that's a Murdock paper now... I don't read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff like that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember Bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ehh, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh dear!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What!!?! Who is bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a tabloid thing back in the day.
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Boy_(character)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm shocked - shocked I tell you - to learn that a newspaper
>>>>>>>>>>> would just make up a story, with no regard for the integrity
>>>>>>>>>>> of the press. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, you aren't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That may or may not have been sarcastic...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought it was fake outrage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The outrage is real. The shock maybe not so much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see. Batboy enrages you. Noted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not Batboy as such - the lack of clarity about the fact that
>>>>> Batboy was wholly fictional.
>>>>>
>>>> It's pretty obvious, no?
>>>> Although, I'm sure there are a few kooks who believe he is real.
>>>> *shrug*
>>> I refer you to the case of the radio dramatisation of H.G. Wells'
>>> "The War of the Worlds".
>>>
>> Yes, yes...
>> 
>>> There is also the ancient dictum (about writing manuals): Don't
>>> write to be understood - write to not be *mis*understood.
>>>
>> I always write user guide like the audience is a 6 year old.
>> Even then (with screenshots) people mess things up.
>> I had a math professor that told me: it's not that people can't do
>> math, they just can't read.
>> Ah...the lost art of reading...
> 
> Speaking of... I just finished The Clan of the Cave Bear. All 587
> pages of it. That's a lot of words. Not all of them strictly necessary
> in my opinion...
> 

I'm on book 3 of the Wheel of Time series. The average size is 826 
pages. There are 13 books plus a prequel.
So there!