Re: Spiderman movies

On 30.08.2023 14.42, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the quality of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my naturally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work outside your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comfort zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem, since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no intention of leaving the zone. Someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to invent remote braining or something.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is hardly a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viable strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday prophet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is right] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to nothing because of a stupid doomsday...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday, now? I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not buying a pair of shoes that I can only use once.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try that]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand sneakers
>>>>>>>>>>>> are stupid expensive - and also doesn't last very well.]
>>>>>>>>>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very well]
>>>>>>>>>> [And we all know why that is...]
>>>>>>>>> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
>>>>>>>> [By jove I think she's got it...]
>>>>>>> [Who,by jove, is jove?]
>>>>>> [A nickname for Jehova/Jahve, probably... you could ask Alan
>>>>>> Lerner if he was still alive.]
>>>>> [Huh? Not looking it up]
>>>> [Okay then]
>>> [So, how 'bout that local sports team?]
>> [It's the off-season now. I have no idea what they get up to ATM.]
> [Some fan you are...]
[The not-obsessed-with-the-private-life-of-sportspeople kind of fan, you
mean. Very true.]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>> nylon >>>> jobs >>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sell for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>> hallows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole >>>>>> bunch >> of >>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WalMart for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt it, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>> they go 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800 handbag is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter. People
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear >>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people assume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >> it >>>>>> with > a nylon wig. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >> what's >>>> the >> point. >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they think it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will think your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > a cheap knock-off. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>> imagine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the country club
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bar... >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like someone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken >>>> an  interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned this kind will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage >>>> your > social standing. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might >> even >> be > invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail parties... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely 0 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it even possible to get invited
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>> -1  parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > send out 'do not attend' notices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>> those who are uniquely unwelcome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happens much in cocktail party
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. I don't even like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess mocktails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper' cocktail was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many years ago when a co-worker an I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to try everything on the menu in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bar on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oslo ferry. It went as well as could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been a tiny but sub-par the next day...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credit card statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The company I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for didn't give out standard per-diem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amounts, so everything we had a receipt for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got refunded... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting receipts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and submit all those receipts every month. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect it cost me quite a lot of money, too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly even plane tickets. Anyway it's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> principle! I shouldn't have been required to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of receipts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to an admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the expenses form
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with the relevant account no. and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification of each receipt, which also had to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be handed in. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being submitted on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the form and then attach the receipts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at least I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmental impact of air-travel. In any case
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was more the being in different places than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the getting there that was enjoyable. Although I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would like to try riding on one of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VeryBigFastness trains they have in France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booked a seat. I couldn't afford to travel for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long time. Now I find it stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's stressful, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's all the planning and preparation. Just don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do that part. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the arriving at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airport at 5 am only to find out that the airline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over-booked the flight etc, etc that is stressful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also don't fly well or sleep well when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overbooking is not within your control, so have some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breakfast and look derisively at all the stressed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people in the airport. The hotel bar has remedies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for not sleeping well... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer (alcohol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content optional). The vitamin B will relax you and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly make you sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise) and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't sleep. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when flying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also they don't dispense pharmaceuticals at the departure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hall bar. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a night on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the town people wake up parched.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also possibly
>>>>>>>>>>>> the physical activity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>>>>>>>>>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and the
>>>>>>>>>> social interacting, and the dancing, and the mating rites, and
>>>>>>>>>> the walking home... It can be quite exhausting. So I've heard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't remember.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You must have seen it in movies and such.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't remember a movie with drunk people talking about how
>>>>>>> exhausting it is to walk home after dancing.
>>>>>> You were probably supposed to infer it from the exhaustedness
>>>>>> displayed by whichever actor was doing the walking home after
>>>>>> dancing. As they say in the storytelling business: 'show don't
>>>>>> tell'. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly, they are all bad actors.
>>>> Or maybe you just haven't seen any movies with drunk people walking
>>>> home after dancing.
>>>>
>>> Probably. Name one.
>> Singing in the Rain.
> 
> Were they drunk? It's been so long since I've it.
Let's say I remember and that they were. Why else would they be singing
in the rain.

>>>>>>> Maybe I need another hint.
>>>>>> I don't know any more that you do...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight. If we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go to a conference, it's usually in Toronto or we fly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Toronto so we have to get the first flight out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of here in the morning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for a fact. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train takes 3-4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours to get there (vs. 50 minutes for the plane) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the train station is another hour away from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airport. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the distance to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the airport is because train stations are inside cities,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often really close to where you want to be, so that time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be added to air travel time, as should the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'hours' you have to be at the airport before departure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given a reasonable number of departures, train journeys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (even non-high-speed trains) will end-to-end mostly be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster than air travel up to 400-500Km. Also you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whole travel time available unbroken for whatever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (even work if so inclined). And more leg-room. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually a table big enough for a laptop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled now at the last minute. It's not a problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at if I'm at the local airport, but if I'm trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get home, it's a huge problem. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European airlines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [used to] hand out cash and/or vouchers for meals and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hotel stays in those cases. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their power to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fight that. Since covid, they have been short-staffed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and therefore frequently cancel flights at the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minute. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for every rule
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are exceptions. The airlines always weasel into a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loophole. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-
>>>>> regulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were close to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy because of all the covid disruption....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> government who gave them money to stay afloat during covid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They used the money to buy back their stock and whined for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more money. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state owned?
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the government got a small percentage of shares as
>>>>>>>>>>> part of the covid bailout package.
>>>>>>>>>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flex-time... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work purposes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which it isn't anymore because they had MS Teams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed on all our laptops. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider... Air travel should logically be much more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive than train. And if ever an equitable CO2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge is implemented it will be. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could randomly disconnect during boring meetings or I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> play Candy Crush. Also, if my camera is off, no one can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see me rolling my eyes. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sound off, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your surroundings aware
>>>>>>>>>>>> that you play the game.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I made the right choice.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to know,
>>>>>>>>>> yes... It would be a power-move if you turned the sound on
>>>>>>>>>> when someone starts babbling about something irrelevant (not
>>>>>>>>>> that that ever happens at meetings).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep. Never happens.
>>>>>>>>> People also never circle back to something that discussed 20
>>>>>>>>> minutes ago and settled. I leave my body a lot at meetings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And that's when someone suggests something out of the blue
>>>>>>>> that's going to cause you a lot of headache and needless work...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or the whole meeting was scheduled so that someone could ask me
>>>>>>> to do something that will be a headache and cause me a lot of
>>>>>>> needless work in front of my supervisor. As if that would make me
>>>>>>> do it. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In that case maybe you should be unavailable for that meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No! They need to be told No!
>>>>> If I'm not there my supervisor will volunteer me.
>>>> Well that's easy enough solved. Just tell your supervisor 'No'.
>>>> Maybe write them a post-it note if they have trouble with aural
>>>> retention. 
>>>>
>>> The problem is with hybrid work, you don't see people IRL much
>>> anymore. Also, we don't have assigned desks on which to stick post-it
>>> notes. 
>> Well stick it on his computer, then. Or send them a tik-chat or a
>> whatsthat or whatever... Email is still a thing too.
>>
> Sure. Email. Then he will have a record of it.
> Very wise.

Exactly. They he can't later claim he didn't know about the no.

-- 
BeH

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