Re: Spiderman movies

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> On 30.08.2023 14.42, Merlyne wrote:
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>>> On 24.08.2023 16.55, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>> On 18.08.2023 14.51, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>> On 13.08.2023 23.28, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the quality of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my naturally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work outside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your comfort zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem, since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no intention of leaving the zone. Someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to invent remote braining or something.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is hardly a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viable strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prophet is right] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to nothing because of a stupid doomsday...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday, now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not buying a pair of shoes that I can only use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try that]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sneakers are stupid expensive - and also doesn't last very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very well]
>>>>>>>>>>> [And we all know why that is...]
>>>>>>>>>> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
>>>>>>>>> [By jove I think she's got it...]
>>>>>>>> [Who,by jove, is jove?]
>>>>>>> [A nickname for Jehova/Jahve, probably... you could ask Alan
>>>>>>> Lerner if he was still alive.]
>>>>>> [Huh? Not looking it up]
>>>>> [Okay then]
>>>> [So, how 'bout that local sports team?]
>>> [It's the off-season now. I have no idea what they get up to ATM.]
>> [Some fan you are...]
> [The not-obsessed-with-the-private-life-of-sportspeople kind of fan,
> you mean. Very true.]
[Right. You have other things to do]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>> nylon >>>> jobs >>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sell for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>> hallows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole >>>>>> bunch >> of >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>different 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WalMart for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but >>>>>> would >>>> they go 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800 handbag is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter. People
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear >>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people assume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >> it >>>>>> with > a nylon wig.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And >> then >> what's >>>> the >> point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they think it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>> knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will think your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > a cheap knock-off. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>> imagine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>club >>>>>> bar... >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like someone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken >>>> an  interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned this kind will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage >>>> your > social standing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You >> might >> even >> be > invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail parties... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely 0 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it even possible to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>> -1  parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>possible 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > send out 'do not attend'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>notices 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>> those who are uniquely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>unwelcome. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happens much in cocktail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>party >>>>> circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. I don't even like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess mocktails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper' cocktail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was > many years ago when a co-worker an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I > decided to try everything on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>menu in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bar on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oslo ferry. It went as well as could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be > expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been a tiny but sub-par the next day...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credit card statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The company I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for didn't give out standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-diem amounts, so everything we had a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipt for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got refunded... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting receipts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and submit all those receipts every month. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect it cost me quite a lot of money,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly even plane tickets. Anyway it's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> principle! I shouldn't have been required to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of receipts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to an admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the expenses form
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with the relevant account no. and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification of each receipt, which also had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be handed in. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being submitted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the form and then attach the receipts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at least I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmental impact of air-travel. In any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case it was more the being in different places
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the getting there that was enjoyable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although I would like to try riding on one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those VeryBigFastness trains they have in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booked a seat. I couldn't afford to travel for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a long time. Now I find it stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's stressful, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's all the planning and preparation. Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do that part. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the arriving at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the airport at 5 am only to find out that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airline over-booked the flight etc, etc that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful. I also don't fly well or sleep well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overbooking is not within your control, so have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some breakfast and look derisively at all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressed people in the airport. The hotel bar has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remedies for not sleeping well... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer (alcohol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content optional). The vitamin B will relax you and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly make you sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise) and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't sleep. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when flying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also they don't dispense pharmaceuticals at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> departure hall bar. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the town people wake up parched.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly the physical activity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>>>>>>>>>>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and the
>>>>>>>>>>> social interacting, and the dancing, and the mating rites,
>>>>>>>>>>> and the walking home... It can be quite exhausting. So I've
>>>>>>>>>>> heard. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You must have seen it in movies and such.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't remember a movie with drunk people talking about how
>>>>>>>> exhausting it is to walk home after dancing.
>>>>>>> You were probably supposed to infer it from the exhaustedness
>>>>>>> displayed by whichever actor was doing the walking home after
>>>>>>> dancing. As they say in the storytelling business: 'show don't
>>>>>>> tell'. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clearly, they are all bad actors.
>>>>> Or maybe you just haven't seen any movies with drunk people
>>>>> walking home after dancing.
>>>>>
>>>> Probably. Name one.
>>> Singing in the Rain.
>> 
>> Were they drunk? It's been so long since I've it.
> Let's say I remember and that they were. Why else would they be
> singing in the rain.

A valid point. I think people just liked tap dancing and stuff back 
then.
> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe I need another hint.
>>>>>>> I don't know any more that you do...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight. If we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go to a conference, it's usually in Toronto or we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fly from Toronto so we have to get the first flight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of here in the morning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for a fact. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train takes 3-4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours to get there (vs. 50 minutes for the plane) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the train station is another hour away from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airport. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the distance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the airport is because train stations are inside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cities, often really close to where you want to be, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that time should be added to air travel time, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should the 'hours' you have to be at the airport
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before departure. Given a reasonable number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> departures, train journeys (even non-high-speed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trains) will end-to-end mostly be faster than air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel up to 400-500Km. Also you have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whole travel time available unbroken for whatever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (even work if so inclined). And more leg-room. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually a table big enough for a laptop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled now at the last minute. It's not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem at if I'm at the local airport, but if I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get home, it's a huge problem. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European airlines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [used to] hand out cash and/or vouchers for meals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hotel stays in those cases. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their power to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fight that. Since covid, they have been short-staffed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and therefore frequently cancel flights at the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minute. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sort of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rule there are exceptions. The airlines always weasel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a loophole. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-
>>>>>> regulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were close to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy because of all the covid disruption....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government who gave them money to stay afloat during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> covid. They used the money to buy back their stock and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whined for more money. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state owned?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the government got a small percentage of shares as
>>>>>>>>>>>> part of the covid bailout package.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flex-time... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work purposes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which it isn't anymore because they had MS Teams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed on all our laptops. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider... Air travel should logically be much more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive than train. And if ever an equitable CO2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge is implemented it will be. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could randomly disconnect during boring meetings or I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can play Candy Crush. Also, if my camera is off, no one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can see me rolling my eyes. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sound off, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your surroundings
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware that you play the game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I made the right choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to know,
>>>>>>>>>>> yes... It would be a power-move if you turned the sound on
>>>>>>>>>>> when someone starts babbling about something irrelevant (not
>>>>>>>>>>> that that ever happens at meetings).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep. Never happens.
>>>>>>>>>> People also never circle back to something that discussed 20
>>>>>>>>>> minutes ago and settled. I leave my body a lot at meetings.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And that's when someone suggests something out of the blue
>>>>>>>>> that's going to cause you a lot of headache and needless
>>>>>>>>> work... 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or the whole meeting was scheduled so that someone could ask me
>>>>>>>> to do something that will be a headache and cause me a lot of
>>>>>>>> needless work in front of my supervisor. As if that would make
>>>>>>>> me do it. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In that case maybe you should be unavailable for that meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No! They need to be told No!
>>>>>> If I'm not there my supervisor will volunteer me.
>>>>> Well that's easy enough solved. Just tell your supervisor 'No'.
>>>>> Maybe write them a post-it note if they have trouble with aural
>>>>> retention. 
>>>>>
>>>> The problem is with hybrid work, you don't see people IRL much
>>>> anymore. Also, we don't have assigned desks on which to stick
>>>> post-it notes. 
>>> Well stick it on his computer, then. Or send them a tik-chat or a
>>> whatsthat or whatever... Email is still a thing too.
>>>
>> Sure. Email. Then he will have a record of it.
>> Very wise.
> 
> Exactly. They he can't later claim he didn't know about the no.
> 
Oh sure he could.
But I have proof!