Re: Spiderman movies

On 06.09.2023 14.22, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the quality of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my naturally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work outside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your comfort zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem, since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no intention of leaving the zone. Someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to invent remote braining or something.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is hardly a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viable strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prophet is right] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to nothing because of a stupid doomsday...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday, now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not buying a pair of shoes that I can only use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try that]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sneakers are stupid expensive - and also doesn't last very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very well]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [And we all know why that is...]
>>>>>>>>>>> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
>>>>>>>>>> [By jove I think she's got it...]
>>>>>>>>> [Who,by jove, is jove?]
>>>>>>>> [A nickname for Jehova/Jahve, probably... you could ask Alan
>>>>>>>> Lerner if he was still alive.]
>>>>>>> [Huh? Not looking it up]
>>>>>> [Okay then]
>>>>> [So, how 'bout that local sports team?]
>>>> [It's the off-season now. I have no idea what they get up to ATM.]
>>> [Some fan you are...]
>> [The not-obsessed-with-the-private-life-of-sportspeople kind of fan,
>> you mean. Very true.]
> [Right. You have other things to do]
[Exactly. A water feature isn't going to make itself.]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>> nylon >>>> jobs >>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sell for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>> hallows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole >>>>>> bunch >> of >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WalMart for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>> would >>>> they go 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800 handbag is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter. People
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear >>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people assume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >> it >>>>>> with > a nylon wig.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And >> then >> what's >>>> the >> point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they think it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will think your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > a cheap knock-off. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>> imagine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> club >>>>>> bar... >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like someone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken >>>> an  interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned this kind will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage >>>> your > social standing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You >> might >> even >> be > invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail parties... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely 0 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it even possible to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>> -1  parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > send out 'do not attend'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notices 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>> those who are uniquely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unwelcome. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happens much in cocktail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >>>>> circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. I don't even like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess mocktails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper' cocktail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was > many years ago when a co-worker an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I > decided to try everything on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bar on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oslo ferry. It went as well as could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been a tiny but sub-par the next day...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credit card statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The company I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked for didn't give out standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-diem amounts, so everything we had a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipt for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got refunded... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting receipts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and submit all those receipts every month. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect it cost me quite a lot of money,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly even plane tickets. Anyway it's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> principle! I shouldn't have been required to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of receipts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to an admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the expenses form
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with the relevant account no. and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification of each receipt, which also had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be handed in. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being submitted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the form and then attach the receipts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at least I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmental impact of air-travel. In any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case it was more the being in different places
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the getting there that was enjoyable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although I would like to try riding on one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those VeryBigFastness trains they have in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booked a seat. I couldn't afford to travel for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a long time. Now I find it stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's stressful, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's all the planning and preparation. Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do that part. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the arriving at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the airport at 5 am only to find out that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airline over-booked the flight etc, etc that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful. I also don't fly well or sleep well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overbooking is not within your control, so have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some breakfast and look derisively at all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressed people in the airport. The hotel bar has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remedies for not sleeping well... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer (alcohol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content optional). The vitamin B will relax you and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly make you sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise) and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't sleep. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when flying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also they don't dispense pharmaceuticals at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> departure hall bar. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the town people wake up parched.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly the physical activity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> social interacting, and the dancing, and the mating rites,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the walking home... It can be quite exhausting. So I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> heard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You must have seen it in movies and such.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't remember a movie with drunk people talking about how
>>>>>>>>> exhausting it is to walk home after dancing.
>>>>>>>> You were probably supposed to infer it from the exhaustedness
>>>>>>>> displayed by whichever actor was doing the walking home after
>>>>>>>> dancing. As they say in the storytelling business: 'show don't
>>>>>>>> tell'. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clearly, they are all bad actors.
>>>>>> Or maybe you just haven't seen any movies with drunk people
>>>>>> walking home after dancing.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Probably. Name one.
>>>> Singing in the Rain.
>>>
>>> Were they drunk? It's been so long since I've it.
>> Let's say I remember and that they were. Why else would they be
>> singing in the rain.
> 
> A valid point. I think people just liked tap dancing and stuff back 
> then.
Some of us still do. Especially in the rain. When drunk.

>>>>>>>>> Maybe I need another hint.
>>>>>>>> I don't know any more that you do...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight. If we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go to a conference, it's usually in Toronto or we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fly from Toronto so we have to get the first flight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of here in the morning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for a fact. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train takes 3-4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours to get there (vs. 50 minutes for the plane) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the train station is another hour away from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airport. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the distance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the airport is because train stations are inside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cities, often really close to where you want to be, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that time should be added to air travel time, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should the 'hours' you have to be at the airport
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before departure. Given a reasonable number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> departures, train journeys (even non-high-speed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trains) will end-to-end mostly be faster than air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel up to 400-500Km. Also you have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whole travel time available unbroken for whatever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (even work if so inclined). And more leg-room. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually a table big enough for a laptop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled now at the last minute. It's not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem at if I'm at the local airport, but if I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get home, it's a huge problem. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European airlines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [used to] hand out cash and/or vouchers for meals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hotel stays in those cases. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their power to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fight that. Since covid, they have been short-staffed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and therefore frequently cancel flights at the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minute. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sort of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rule there are exceptions. The airlines always weasel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a loophole. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-
>>>>>>> regulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were close to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy because of all the covid disruption....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government who gave them money to stay afloat during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> covid. They used the money to buy back their stock and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whined for more money. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state owned?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the government got a small percentage of shares as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> part of the covid bailout package.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flex-time... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work purposes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which it isn't anymore because they had MS Teams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed on all our laptops. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider... Air travel should logically be much more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive than train. And if ever an equitable CO2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge is implemented it will be. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could randomly disconnect during boring meetings or I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can play Candy Crush. Also, if my camera is off, no one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can see me rolling my eyes. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sound off, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your surroundings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware that you play the game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I made the right choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to know,
>>>>>>>>>>>> yes... It would be a power-move if you turned the sound on
>>>>>>>>>>>> when someone starts babbling about something irrelevant (not
>>>>>>>>>>>> that that ever happens at meetings).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. Never happens.
>>>>>>>>>>> People also never circle back to something that discussed 20
>>>>>>>>>>> minutes ago and settled. I leave my body a lot at meetings.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And that's when someone suggests something out of the blue
>>>>>>>>>> that's going to cause you a lot of headache and needless
>>>>>>>>>> work... 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or the whole meeting was scheduled so that someone could ask me
>>>>>>>>> to do something that will be a headache and cause me a lot of
>>>>>>>>> needless work in front of my supervisor. As if that would make
>>>>>>>>> me do it. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In that case maybe you should be unavailable for that meeting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No! They need to be told No!
>>>>>>> If I'm not there my supervisor will volunteer me.
>>>>>> Well that's easy enough solved. Just tell your supervisor 'No'.
>>>>>> Maybe write them a post-it note if they have trouble with aural
>>>>>> retention. 
>>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is with hybrid work, you don't see people IRL much
>>>>> anymore. Also, we don't have assigned desks on which to stick
>>>>> post-it notes. 
>>>> Well stick it on his computer, then. Or send them a tik-chat or a
>>>> whatsthat or whatever... Email is still a thing too.
>>>>
>>> Sure. Email. Then he will have a record of it.
>>> Very wise.
>>
>> Exactly. They he can't later claim he didn't know about the no.
>>
> Oh sure he could.
> But I have proof!

He can't *credibly* claim he didn't know about the no.

-- 
BeH

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