Re: Heating woes

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]: 

> On 06.09.2023 14.22, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]: 
>> 
>>> On 30.08.2023 14.42, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>
>>>>> On 24.08.2023 16.55, Merlyne wrote:
>>> [Unmessyness achieved]
>> [A half-assed job]
> [The unmessying of a usenet thread is a neverending task.]
[If only you were so vigilant with the housework]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [My brane hurts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You really should get one of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brane massage thingies] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Which?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The ones with the wires and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little > balls... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: Expecting a ].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Aren't those for massaging the scalp?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, you obviously have to remove the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top of the scull first for the best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's always a catch. First you need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the massage thingie and then you get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of the box and see you need a Stryker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saw. At this point, I've already opened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the box, so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't send it back for a refund. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement blades for that thing aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheap. Then I get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part way around and realize I can't get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my skull undone at the back] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Maybe the friendly people at the hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store can help you out. If I buy wood I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get it cut to size for DKK50 per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cut...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I don't want someone who cuts wood for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living playing around with my  skull]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You should have some faith in your fellow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human, I'm sure they are perfectly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> competent. And willing to sanitise the blade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a nominal fee.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Hard pass]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If you prefer. But you don't know where that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blade has been.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*runs away*]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There really is no way to please you, is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there?] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Not when it comes to opening my head with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rusty blade, no} 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *crying and shaking from TWO unbalanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parenthesises* 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The rusty part is on you, though, if you won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the cleaning fee] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Can I borrow some money? I'm a bit short right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Doesn't your health insurance cover de-rusting?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I doubt it. It covers only the essentials, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cosmetic things] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You could argue that not un-rusting the saw is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infection risk, so it could be more expensive in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long run.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Have you every tried to argue with an insurance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company?] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Nope. But I'm sure they are all nice people with your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best interest in mind.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'm sure their profits are ahead of my welfare]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It must be a miserable life to have mindset like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But that's CAPITALISM for you]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Money makes the world go around. I feel a song coming on]
>>>>>>>>>>> [Is it the Internationale? Or maybe Le Marseillaise? Beneath
>>>>>>>>>>> the Red Banner?]
>>>>>>>>>> [Nope]
>>>>>>>>> [I give up, then. What song?]
>>>>>>>> [99 Red Balloons]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But that's not even about capitalism...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know. I just like the song.
>>>>> {opium for the working classes... bread and circus... similar
>>>>> catchy phrases of pedantic disapproval}
>>>>
>>>> I see -- you dislike my taste in music.
>>> It has nothing to do with your taste in music. The important bit is
>>> how evil and dangerous not good capitalism is.
>> 
>> Please explain how 99 Red Balloons proves that.
> It doesn't. That's sort of the point. Those other songs at least
> attempt to address the evilness.
It was the song that came up next on my playlist.
Behold! The randomness of all things...
> 
>>>>> Did you know that "Hagen" is danish for 'the chin'.
>>>>
>>>> Wow! Fascinating...
>>>> Isn't Hagen an aquarium supply company?
>>>
>>> No idea. I don't have an acuarium...
>> Or a spel chekur
> Or good lighting for the keybored....
Maybee u need a nu lamp.
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [semantics no more]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Huh?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Left on the editor's floor]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I must have misunderstood the editor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I  thought he said my dress would look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>good  on the floor] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I would think that's more of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> producer's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comment. Anyway that sort of thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen any more. There was that scandal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the 30's, I think, and then all that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense stopped.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yeah, right. I used to sit beside the IT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster back in the 80's. They harrassed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me (and other women) every day. Well, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones who weren't too scared to talk to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> girl did.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That must be a uniquely Canadian thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something like that would never happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here. Except for the head of a major
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> union. She had to resign recently, amid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accusations of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullying and harassment. And the bigwig in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the political parties who 'elected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to spend more time with his family' or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something not long ago.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By harassment, I meant sexual harassment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to laugh it off. Nowadays the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments would be reported to HR.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Both examples above included/consisted of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sexual harassment. People who gain power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think they can get away with stuff. Down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with power.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I've never had my job threatened]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Try harassing someone. That may work.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The harrassment courses that we to take don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give any tips on how to harrass someone.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure they do. All the stuff where it says 'Don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do this' - do that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't really do that anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first time we took it, it was in a classroom.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People where asking too many questions. Having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> met other people, I assume that scheduling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody into a session is a logistical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nightmare. They switched it to an online course
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with case studies. One was about a woman who took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lower paying job in a department after being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harrassed by a coworker. The coworker was another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> woman who was mean to her and said things like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'I'm sick of covering for you' and shoved the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first woman into the wall when they were alone in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the washroom and stuff like that. It probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> triggered someone. Now the course is online and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> focuses on the broad definition of harrassment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and what you should do if you are harrassed and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the steps of the process to resolve the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like it's the victims responsibility now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they don't take it seriously unless there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are witnesses and stuff. Otherwise it turns into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of those he-said-she-said things. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One radical idea I just came up with is just not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have harassers going around in the work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment harassing people... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                      /don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you control other people especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullies. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I missed a word, which I do often since I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster than I type. Let's go with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody surely controls whether they are/remain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. But you have a prove a case with Labour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Relations and then it will go to arbitration and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bully will be given a chance to improve. The union
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will fight any dismissals. It's really hard to rid of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if they spend their time bullying other people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can't also be doing their job properly... So fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them for incompetence. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. That is also an uphill battle. *sigh*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Years ago, a co-worker spent time in jail because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he molested a kid at his wife's daycare. The day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before he came back, we were all herded into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boardroom and told that mentioning his crime or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being mean to him was harrassment and anyone doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so would be fired. The system works. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So not the guy assigned to look after the kids at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the company picnic, I take it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would advise against it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are so wise...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's the glasses, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That, and the professional attire.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't mock the yoga pants!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not. Not at all. I'm all in favour of yoga pants. (Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on me, though) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do wear casual business attire on the days when I go into
>>>>>>>>>>>> the office. But I change into my pajamas as soon as I get
>>>>>>>>>>>> home. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Who doesn't look wise in pajamas?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I look comfy. And probably tired.
>>>>>>>>>> The 'wise' part is from the glasses and silver hair.
>>>>>>>>>> Pretty sure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I dunno. I have glasses and some silver hair - nobody have
>>>>>>>>> called me wise lately...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You need to go out and socialize.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm busy. Anyway I go out all the time. Tomorrow for example I'm
>>>>>>> going out to buy tobacco. And food, probably.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> A wise decision.
>>>>> A bare necessity...
>>>>
>>>> Yep. Food, water and sex are at the bottom of the needs pyramid.
>>> I was referring to the tobacco, but I guess that other stuff is
>>> important too.
>>>
>>>>>> Well, except for the tobacco.
>>>>> Had I not bought tobacco, I would shortly thereafter have been
>>>>> without any tobacco, which would have been a bad (and unwise)
>>>>> thing. 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are few things more unwise than consuming tobacco products.
>>> Commenting on other people's consumption of tobacco products being
>>> one of them, probably.
>>>
>> Really? What are you going to do about it?
> 
> Probably nothing, since I'm nice and relaxed due to having a
> sufficient amount of tobacco for now.
> 
*phew*