Re: Spiderman movies

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> On 09.09.2023 22.51, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of >>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naturally unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work outside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your comfort zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem, since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no intention of leaving the zone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone needs to invent remote braining or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is hardly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a viable strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prophet is right] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all come to nothing because of a stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doomsday...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now? I'm not buying a pair of shoes that I can only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use once.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sneakers are stupid expensive - and also doesn't last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very well.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [And we all know why that is...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By jove I think she's got it...]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Who,by jove, is jove?]
>>>>>>>>>>> [A nickname for Jehova/Jahve, probably... you could ask Alan
>>>>>>>>>>> Lerner if he was still alive.]
>>>>>>>>>> [Huh? Not looking it up]
>>>>>>>>> [Okay then]
>>>>>>>> [So, how 'bout that local sports team?]
>>>>>>> [It's the off-season now. I have no idea what they get up to
>>>>>>> ATM.] 
>>>>>> [Some fan you are...]
>>>>> [The not-obsessed-with-the-private-life-of-sportspeople kind of
>>>>> fan, you mean. Very true.]
>>>> [Right. You have other things to do]
>>> [Exactly. A water feature isn't going to make itself.]
>> [How's it coming along?]
> [It's still in the planning stages. I need to re-lay some pavement
> stones that have been undermined by water and/or ants first. But I
> have the stone and a largeish pile of dirt all ready for the
> wellspring part.] 
[Best get on that. It will be winter before you know it]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of >>>>>> those >>>>>> nylon >>>> jobs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> they >>>> sell for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>> hallows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a >>>>>> whole >>>>>> bunch >> of >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WalMart for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it, >>>> but >>>>>> would >>>> they go 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People >>>>>> wear >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>assume >>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>> use >> it >>>>>> with > a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nylon >> wig. >> And >> then >> what's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's >> a >>>>>>>>>> knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > a cheap knock-off. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>can >>>>>> only >>>>>> imagine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> club >>>>>> bar... >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken >>>> an  interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned this kind will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage >>>> your > social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>standing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You >> might >> even >> be >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail parties...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>> Is it even possible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get >>>> invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>> -1  parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > send out 'do not attend'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notices 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>> those who are uniquely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unwelcome. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happens much in cocktail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >>>>> circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>do. >>>>>>> Not really. I don't even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like >>>>>> cocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cocktail 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was > many years ago when a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>co-worker 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >> I > decided to try everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on >> the >> menu in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bar on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oslo ferry. It went as well as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could >>>> be > expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > been a tiny but sub-par the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next >> day... >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credit card statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>company 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked for didn't give out standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-diem amounts, so everything we had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a > receipt for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got refunded... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts for business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list and submit all those receipts every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month. I suspect it cost me quite a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of money, too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly even plane tickets. Anyway it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the principle! I shouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts to an admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the expenses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form along with the relevant account no. and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification of each receipt, which also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to be handed in. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted on the form and then attach the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmental impact of air-travel. In any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case it was more the being in different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> places than the getting there that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoyable. Although I would like to try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> riding on one of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those VeryBigFastness trains they have in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've booked a seat. I couldn't afford to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel for a long time. Now I find it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful, as it's all the planning and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preparation. Just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do that part. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the arriving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the airport at 5 am only to find out that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the airline over-booked the flight etc, etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is stressful. I also don't fly well or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep well when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overbooking is not within your control, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have some breakfast and look derisively at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the stressed people in the airport. The hotel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bar has remedies for not sleeping well... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer (alcohol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content optional). The vitamin B will relax you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and possibly make you sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't sleep. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flying. Also they don't dispense pharmaceuticals at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the departure hall bar. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> night on the town people wake up parched.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly the physical activity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> social interacting, and the dancing, and the mating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rites, and the walking home... It can be quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhausting. So I've heard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You must have seen it in movies and such.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember a movie with drunk people talking about
>>>>>>>>>>>> how exhausting it is to walk home after dancing.
>>>>>>>>>>> You were probably supposed to infer it from the
>>>>>>>>>>> exhaustedness displayed by whichever actor was doing the
>>>>>>>>>>> walking home after dancing. As they say in the storytelling
>>>>>>>>>>> business: 'show don't tell'. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Clearly, they are all bad actors.
>>>>>>>>> Or maybe you just haven't seen any movies with drunk people
>>>>>>>>> walking home after dancing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably. Name one.
>>>>>>> Singing in the Rain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Were they drunk? It's been so long since I've it.
>>>>> Let's say I remember and that they were. Why else would they be
>>>>> singing in the rain.
>>>>
>>>> A valid point. I think people just liked tap dancing and stuff back
>>>> then.
>>> Some of us still do. Especially in the rain. When drunk.
>> Uh-huh...
> I would show you but it isn't raining now... Also I'm not drunk.

Another thing I will have to wait on you for...
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I need another hint.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know any more that you do...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we go to a conference, it's usually in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toronto or we fly from Toronto so we have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the first flight out of here in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know this for a fact. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3-4 hours to get there (vs. 50 minutes for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plane) and the train station is another hour away
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the airport. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distance to the airport is because train stations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are inside cities, often really close to where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be, so that time should be added to air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel time, as should the 'hours' you have to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the airport before departure. Given a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable number of departures, train journeys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (even non-high-speed trains) will end-to-end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mostly be faster than air travel up to 400-500Km.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also you have the whole travel time available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unbroken for whatever (even work if so inclined).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And more leg-room. And usually a table big enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a laptop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled now at the last minute. It's not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem at if I'm at the local airport, but if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get home, it's a huge problem. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines [used to] hand out cash and/or vouchers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for meals and hotel stays in those cases. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fight that. Since covid, they have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short-staffed and therefore frequently cancel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flights at the last minute. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sort of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rule there are exceptions. The airlines always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weasel into a loophole. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-
>>>>>>>>>> regulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close to bankruptcy because of all the covid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disruption.... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government who gave them money to stay afloat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during covid. They used the money to buy back their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stock and whined for more money. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owned? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the government got a small percentage of shares
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as part of the covid bailout package.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flex-time... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purposes which it isn't anymore because they had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS Teams installed on all our laptops. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider... Air travel should logically be much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more expensive than train. And if ever an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equitable CO2 charge is implemented it will be. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet could randomly disconnect during boring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings or I can play Candy Crush. Also, if my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera is off, no one can see me rolling my eyes. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the sound off, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your surroundings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware that you play the game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I made the right choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know, yes... It would be a power-move if you turned the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound on when someone starts babbling about something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant (not that that ever happens at meetings).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. Never happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People also never circle back to something that discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 minutes ago and settled. I leave my body a lot at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that's when someone suggests something out of the blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's going to cause you a lot of headache and needless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the whole meeting was scheduled so that someone could
>>>>>>>>>>>> ask me to do something that will be a headache and cause me
>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of needless work in front of my supervisor. As if
>>>>>>>>>>>> that would make me do it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In that case maybe you should be unavailable for that
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No! They need to be told No!
>>>>>>>>>> If I'm not there my supervisor will volunteer me.
>>>>>>>>> Well that's easy enough solved. Just tell your supervisor
>>>>>>>>> 'No'. Maybe write them a post-it note if they have trouble
>>>>>>>>> with aural retention. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem is with hybrid work, you don't see people IRL much
>>>>>>>> anymore. Also, we don't have assigned desks on which to stick
>>>>>>>> post-it notes. 
>>>>>>> Well stick it on his computer, then. Or send them a tik-chat or
>>>>>>> a whatsthat or whatever... Email is still a thing too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure. Email. Then he will have a record of it.
>>>>>> Very wise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly. They he can't later claim he didn't know about the no.
>>>>>
>>>> Oh sure he could.
>>>> But I have proof!
>>>
>>> He can't *credibly* claim he didn't know about the no.
>>>
>> Yes! Because I have proof!
> 
> So problem solved. You can skip the meeting...
> 
YAY!