Re: Spiderman movies

BeH <[email protected]>
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On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]: 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naturally unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work outside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your comfort zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem, since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no intention of leaving the zone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone needs to invent remote braining or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is hardly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a viable strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prophet is right] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all come to nothing because of a stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doomsday...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now? I'm not buying a pair of shoes that I can only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use once.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sneakers are stupid expensive - and also doesn't last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very well.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [And we all know why that is...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By jove I think she's got it...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Who,by jove, is jove?]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [A nickname for Jehova/Jahve, probably... you could ask Alan
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lerner if he was still alive.]
>>>>>>>>>>> [Huh? Not looking it up]
>>>>>>>>>> [Okay then]
>>>>>>>>> [So, how 'bout that local sports team?]
>>>>>>>> [It's the off-season now. I have no idea what they get up to
>>>>>>>> ATM.] 
>>>>>>> [Some fan you are...]
>>>>>> [The not-obsessed-with-the-private-life-of-sportspeople kind of
>>>>>> fan, you mean. Very true.]
>>>>> [Right. You have other things to do]
>>>> [Exactly. A water feature isn't going to make itself.]
>>> [How's it coming along?]
>> [It's still in the planning stages. I need to re-lay some pavement
>> stones that have been undermined by water and/or ants first. But I
>> have the stone and a largeish pile of dirt all ready for the
>> wellspring part.] 
> [Best get on that. It will be winter before you know it]
[Actually yesterday was recorded as a "summer day" by the
meteorologists. (Air temperature above 25'C). The latest date for one of
those in recorded history. That's climate change for you.]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>> those >>>>>> nylon >>>> jobs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>> sell for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>> hallows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>> whole >>>>>> bunch >> of >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WalMart for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>> but >>>>>> would >>>> they go 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People >>>>>> wear >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume >>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>> use >> it >>>>>> with > a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nylon >> wig. >> And >> then >> what's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's >> a >>>>>>>>>> knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > a cheap knock-off. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>> only >>>>>> imagine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> club >>>>>> bar... >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken >>>> an  interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned this kind will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage >>>> your > social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You >> might >> even >> be >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail parties...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>> Is it even possible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>> invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>> -1  parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > send out 'do not attend'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notices 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>> those who are uniquely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unwelcome. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happens much in cocktail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >>>>> circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>> Not really. I don't even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>> cocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocktail 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was > many years ago when a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> co-worker 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >> I > decided to try everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> the >> menu in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bar on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oslo ferry. It went as well as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >>>> be > expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > been a tiny but sub-par the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next >> day... >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credit card statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked for didn't give out standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-diem amounts, so everything we had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a > receipt for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got refunded... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts for business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list and submit all those receipts every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month. I suspect it cost me quite a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of money, too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly even plane tickets. Anyway it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the principle! I shouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts to an admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the expenses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form along with the relevant account no. and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification of each receipt, which also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to be handed in. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted on the form and then attach the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmental impact of air-travel. In any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case it was more the being in different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> places than the getting there that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoyable. Although I would like to try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> riding on one of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those VeryBigFastness trains they have in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've booked a seat. I couldn't afford to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel for a long time. Now I find it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful, as it's all the planning and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preparation. Just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do that part. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the arriving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the airport at 5 am only to find out that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the airline over-booked the flight etc, etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is stressful. I also don't fly well or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep well when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overbooking is not within your control, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have some breakfast and look derisively at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the stressed people in the airport. The hotel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bar has remedies for not sleeping well... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer (alcohol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content optional). The vitamin B will relax you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and possibly make you sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't sleep. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flying. Also they don't dispense pharmaceuticals at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the departure hall bar. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> night on the town people wake up parched.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly the physical activity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> social interacting, and the dancing, and the mating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rites, and the walking home... It can be quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhausting. So I've heard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You must have seen it in movies and such.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember a movie with drunk people talking about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how exhausting it is to walk home after dancing.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You were probably supposed to infer it from the
>>>>>>>>>>>> exhaustedness displayed by whichever actor was doing the
>>>>>>>>>>>> walking home after dancing. As they say in the storytelling
>>>>>>>>>>>> business: 'show don't tell'. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly, they are all bad actors.
>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe you just haven't seen any movies with drunk people
>>>>>>>>>> walking home after dancing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Probably. Name one.
>>>>>>>> Singing in the Rain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Were they drunk? It's been so long since I've it.
>>>>>> Let's say I remember and that they were. Why else would they be
>>>>>> singing in the rain.
>>>>>
>>>>> A valid point. I think people just liked tap dancing and stuff back
>>>>> then.
>>>> Some of us still do. Especially in the rain. When drunk.
>>> Uh-huh...
>> I would show you but it isn't raining now... Also I'm not drunk.
> 
> Another thing I will have to wait on you for...
I don't control the weather, you know... If only I did.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I need another hint.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know any more that you do...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we go to a conference, it's usually in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toronto or we fly from Toronto so we have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the first flight out of here in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know this for a fact. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3-4 hours to get there (vs. 50 minutes for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plane) and the train station is another hour away
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the airport. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distance to the airport is because train stations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are inside cities, often really close to where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be, so that time should be added to air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel time, as should the 'hours' you have to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the airport before departure. Given a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable number of departures, train journeys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (even non-high-speed trains) will end-to-end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mostly be faster than air travel up to 400-500Km.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also you have the whole travel time available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unbroken for whatever (even work if so inclined).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And more leg-room. And usually a table big enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a laptop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled now at the last minute. It's not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem at if I'm at the local airport, but if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get home, it's a huge problem. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines [used to] hand out cash and/or vouchers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for meals and hotel stays in those cases. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fight that. Since covid, they have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short-staffed and therefore frequently cancel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flights at the last minute. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sort of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rule there are exceptions. The airlines always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weasel into a loophole. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-
>>>>>>>>>>> regulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close to bankruptcy because of all the covid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disruption.... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government who gave them money to stay afloat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during covid. They used the money to buy back their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stock and whined for more money. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owned? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the government got a small percentage of shares
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as part of the covid bailout package.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flex-time... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purposes which it isn't anymore because they had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS Teams installed on all our laptops. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider... Air travel should logically be much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more expensive than train. And if ever an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equitable CO2 charge is implemented it will be. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet could randomly disconnect during boring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings or I can play Candy Crush. Also, if my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera is off, no one can see me rolling my eyes. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the sound off, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your surroundings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware that you play the game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I made the right choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know, yes... It would be a power-move if you turned the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound on when someone starts babbling about something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant (not that that ever happens at meetings).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. Never happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People also never circle back to something that discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 minutes ago and settled. I leave my body a lot at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that's when someone suggests something out of the blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's going to cause you a lot of headache and needless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the whole meeting was scheduled so that someone could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask me to do something that will be a headache and cause me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of needless work in front of my supervisor. As if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would make me do it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case maybe you should be unavailable for that
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No! They need to be told No!
>>>>>>>>>>> If I'm not there my supervisor will volunteer me.
>>>>>>>>>> Well that's easy enough solved. Just tell your supervisor
>>>>>>>>>> 'No'. Maybe write them a post-it note if they have trouble
>>>>>>>>>> with aural retention. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problem is with hybrid work, you don't see people IRL much
>>>>>>>>> anymore. Also, we don't have assigned desks on which to stick
>>>>>>>>> post-it notes. 
>>>>>>>> Well stick it on his computer, then. Or send them a tik-chat or
>>>>>>>> a whatsthat or whatever... Email is still a thing too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure. Email. Then he will have a record of it.
>>>>>>> Very wise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly. They he can't later claim he didn't know about the no.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh sure he could.
>>>>> But I have proof!
>>>>
>>>> He can't *credibly* claim he didn't know about the no.
>>>>
>>> Yes! Because I have proof!
>>
>> So problem solved. You can skip the meeting...
>>
> YAY!

Don't forget to send the "No", though.

-- 
BeH

" We are trapped by language to such a degree that every attempt to
formulate insight is a play on words." - Niels Bohr
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