Re: Spiderman movies

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]: 
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quality 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naturally unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>outside 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your comfort zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since I have no intention of leaving the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zone. Someone needs to invent remote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> braining or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardly a viable strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prophet is right] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all come to nothing because of a stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doomsday...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now? I'm not buying a pair of shoes that I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only use once.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sneakers are stupid expensive - and also doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last very well.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [And we all know why that is...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [By jove I think she's got it...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Who,by jove, is jove?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [A nickname for Jehova/Jahve, probably... you could ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Lerner if he was still alive.]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Huh? Not looking it up]
>>>>>>>>>>> [Okay then]
>>>>>>>>>> [So, how 'bout that local sports team?]
>>>>>>>>> [It's the off-season now. I have no idea what they get up to
>>>>>>>>> ATM.] 
>>>>>>>> [Some fan you are...]
>>>>>>> [The not-obsessed-with-the-private-life-of-sportspeople kind of
>>>>>>> fan, you mean. Very true.]
>>>>>> [Right. You have other things to do]
>>>>> [Exactly. A water feature isn't going to make itself.]
>>>> [How's it coming along?]
>>> [It's still in the planning stages. I need to re-lay some pavement
>>> stones that have been undermined by water and/or ants first. But I
>>> have the stone and a largeish pile of dirt all ready for the
>>> wellspring part.] 
>> [Best get on that. It will be winter before you know it]
> [Actually yesterday was recorded as a "summer day" by the
> meteorologists. (Air temperature above 25'C). The latest date for one
> of those in recorded history. That's climate change for you.]
[El Nino.]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>> those >>>>>> nylon >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jobs >>>>>>> they >>>> sell for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>> hallows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get >> a >>>>>> whole >>>>>> bunch >> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> different 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WalMart for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>> but >>>>>> would >>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People >>>>>> wear >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume >>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if >>>> you >>>> use >> it >>>>>> with >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a >> nylon >> wig. >> And >> then >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what's >>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>think >>>> it's >> a >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>think >>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > a cheap knock-off. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>> only >>>>>> imagine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>country 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> club >>>>>> bar... >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken >>>> an  interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of >>>>>>>>>> interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned this kind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will >>>>>>>> damage >>>> your > social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You >> might >> even >> be >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>parties... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0 >>>> now. >>>>>>>> Is it even possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to >> get >>>> invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>> -1  parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > send out 'do not attend'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notices 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>> those who are uniquely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unwelcome. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happens much in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cocktail 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >>>>> circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>> Not really. I don't even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>> cocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocktail 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was > many years ago when a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> co-worker 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >> I > decided to try everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> the >> menu in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bar on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oslo ferry. It went as well as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >>>> be > expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>may >>>> have > been a tiny but sub-par
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the >> next >> day... >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your >>>> credit card statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked for didn't give out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>standard 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-diem amounts, so everything we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>had >> a > receipt for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got refunded... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts for business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list and submit all those receipts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>every > month. I suspect it cost me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quite a lot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of money, too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and possibly even plane tickets. Anyway
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's the principle! I shouldn't have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been required to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts to an admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expenses form along with the relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account no. and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification of each receipt, which also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to be handed in. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted on the form and then attach the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>least > I don't have to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmental impact of air-travel. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any case it was more the being in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> places than the getting there that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoyable. Although I would like to try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> riding on one of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those VeryBigFastness trains they have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've booked a seat. I couldn't afford
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to travel for a long time. Now I find it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful, as it's all the planning and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preparation. Just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do that part. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arriving at the airport at 5 am only to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find out that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the airline over-booked the flight etc, etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is stressful. I also don't fly well or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep well when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The overbooking is not within your control,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so have some breakfast and look derisively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all the stressed people in the airport.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hotel bar has remedies for not sleeping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (alcohol content optional). The vitamin B will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax you and possibly make you sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I can't sleep. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flying. Also they don't dispense pharmaceuticals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the departure hall bar. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> night on the town people wake up parched.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly the physical activity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the social interacting, and the dancing, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mating rites, and the walking home... It can be quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhausting. So I've heard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You must have seen it in movies and such.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember a movie with drunk people talking about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how exhausting it is to walk home after dancing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You were probably supposed to infer it from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhaustedness displayed by whichever actor was doing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking home after dancing. As they say in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> storytelling business: 'show don't tell'. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly, they are all bad actors.
>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe you just haven't seen any movies with drunk people
>>>>>>>>>>> walking home after dancing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Probably. Name one.
>>>>>>>>> Singing in the Rain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Were they drunk? It's been so long since I've it.
>>>>>>> Let's say I remember and that they were. Why else would they be
>>>>>>> singing in the rain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A valid point. I think people just liked tap dancing and stuff
>>>>>> back then.
>>>>> Some of us still do. Especially in the rain. When drunk.
>>>> Uh-huh...
>>> I would show you but it isn't raining now... Also I'm not drunk.
>> 
>> Another thing I will have to wait on you for...
> I don't control the weather, you know... If only I did.

Then what?
It would snow all the time because Scandahooivans love skiing.
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I need another hint.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know any more that you do...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we go to a conference, it's usually in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toronto or we fly from Toronto so we have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the first flight out of here in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know this for a fact. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes 3-4 hours to get there (vs. 50 minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the plane) and the train station is another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hour away from the airport. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distance to the airport is because train
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stations are inside cities, often really close
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to where you want to be, so that time should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added to air travel time, as should the 'hours'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have to be at the airport before departure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given a reasonable number of departures, train
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> journeys (even non-high-speed trains) will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end-to-end mostly be faster than air travel up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 400-500Km. Also you have the whole travel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time available unbroken for whatever (even work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if so inclined). And more leg-room. And usually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a table big enough for a laptop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled now at the last minute. It's not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem at if I'm at the local airport, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I'm trying to get home, it's a huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines [used to] hand out cash and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vouchers for meals and hotel stays in those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power to fight that. Since covid, they have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been short-staffed and therefore frequently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancel flights at the last minute. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that sort of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every rule there are exceptions. The airlines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always weasel into a loophole. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-
protection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 
>>>>>>>>>>>> regulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close to bankruptcy because of all the covid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disruption.... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the government who gave them money to stay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afloat during covid. They used the money to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back their stock and whined for more money. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owned? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the government got a small percentage of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shares as part of the covid bailout package.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flex-time... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purposes which it isn't anymore because they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had MS Teams installed on all our laptops. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider... Air travel should logically be much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more expensive than train. And if ever an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equitable CO2 charge is implemented it will be. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet could randomly disconnect during boring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings or I can play Candy Crush. Also, if my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera is off, no one can see me rolling my eyes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the sound off, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surroundings aware that you play the game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I made the right choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know, yes... It would be a power-move if you turned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sound on when someone starts babbling about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something irrelevant (not that that ever happens at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings). 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. Never happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People also never circle back to something that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed 20 minutes ago and settled. I leave my body a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot at meetings. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that's when someone suggests something out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue that's going to cause you a lot of headache and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needless work... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the whole meeting was scheduled so that someone could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask me to do something that will be a headache and cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a lot of needless work in front of my supervisor. As
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if that would make me do it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case maybe you should be unavailable for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No! They need to be told No!
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I'm not there my supervisor will volunteer me.
>>>>>>>>>>> Well that's easy enough solved. Just tell your supervisor
>>>>>>>>>>> 'No'. Maybe write them a post-it note if they have trouble
>>>>>>>>>>> with aural retention. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The problem is with hybrid work, you don't see people IRL
>>>>>>>>>> much anymore. Also, we don't have assigned desks on which to
>>>>>>>>>> stick post-it notes. 
>>>>>>>>> Well stick it on his computer, then. Or send them a tik-chat
>>>>>>>>> or a whatsthat or whatever... Email is still a thing too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure. Email. Then he will have a record of it.
>>>>>>>> Very wise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly. They he can't later claim he didn't know about the no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh sure he could.
>>>>>> But I have proof!
>>>>>
>>>>> He can't *credibly* claim he didn't know about the no.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes! Because I have proof!
>>>
>>> So problem solved. You can skip the meeting...
>>>
>> YAY!
> 
> Don't forget to send the "No", though.
> 

Okay!