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> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 05.07.2023 14.14, Merlyne wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02.07.2023 16.29, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28.06.2023 13.31, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got a new phone and a better plan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why are cell plans so much more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my country vs the US? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAPITALISM! It's always capitalism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've been over this. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. Are you sure that it's not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>related 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to population base? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you pay the same country-wide and you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same coverage in sparsely populated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas (I know you have some of those),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then maybe. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But most likely capitalism. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ugh!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got a new S21 and 20GB of data for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $47/month taxes in. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pay a base fee of ~$4/month
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(deducted 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from consumption) with slightly higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-minute charge and no free data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But > then I only use 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data in emergency (which haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet) and make maybe two calls and two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> texts/month. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to have a prepaid cell for like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $10 a month back in 2003 when it was my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emergency phone. Once I started using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it  all the time, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was more cost-efficient to have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>plan  with unlimited talk and text. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would say 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I am most frequently contacted by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text than by other modes i.e. voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call  or email. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand I still pay for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landline (IP) even though it hasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>made > a sound (or call) in several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years. >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also have a landline. My Dad calls it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a few places where I keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>forgetting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change my contact info to my cell. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think the landline isn't VOIP it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever came 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before that but after rotary dial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>phones. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analog... (rotary dials relied on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the impulses - one for each digit passed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on return; pushbutton 'dialing' relied
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the frequency of the tone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correspondig to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each digit/button) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They will probably phase it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like they did with teevee signals, thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making everyone get new teevees... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I got a new tv because the old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one stopped working. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That may be, but lots of people got new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tvs because their old one couldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receive/decode the digital signal. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The cable company gave out digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversion boxes to people. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you still get one of those. To use on an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old teevee that you buy at an antique shop?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt anything would work on a tv that old.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In theory it would. It would require a digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to analog conversion and probably a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granularity reduction from HD to PAL or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [whatever the American format is called]. An
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old cable converter might just work if one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could bypass the subscription bit. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could work from an antenna. Some channels
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are in the air. In HD even. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what I meant, using the antenna as input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the box. A really old TV will probably make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mess of an unaltered HD signal. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can imagine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would probably make a mess of SD signals too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if by some miracle it could be made to work,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there probably wouldn't be anything good on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense! There are always quality programming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available like those reality shows were a farmer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs a wife. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grrr! No matter when I look it seems to be all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American 'Married at first sight' or some survival
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's now a couple of them on about finding a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spouse for farmers. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And some where they put couples in an isolated spot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and see how long it takes for people to cheat on their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partners. *sigh* 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how long does it take? I need closure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I don't have that information. I don't watch that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type of programming. It's detrimental to my health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bet it would help you fall asleep = good for your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. I tend to get irrationally angry that this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shite is even produced, much less broadcast - using my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> money to do it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But it's outside your control. You need to chill.
>>>>>>>>>>> That certainly does not lessen the frustration.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here have some Gatorade.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mmmmm... electrolytes. (I've never actually tried Gatorade.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think my Dad bought some in the 70's when it was green sea
>>>>>>>>>> water. It's pretty gross.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the stuff they have now is full of sugar.
>>>>>>>>> Well, sports people need their energy.
>>>>>>>> This is just a guess - it's mostly non-sports people who drink
>>>>>>>> it. 
>>>>>>> Also the sports people/teams who are sponsored by the company, I
>>>>>>> bet. At least when they are on teevee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or the Gatorade container is filled with water. At least that's
>>>>>> what it looks like when they dump it on the winning coach.
>>>>> One would hope so, given the stickyness of sugary drinks...
>>>> But you never know...
>>> That may be what happened to that Spanish womens football coach...
>> He got drunk on fermented Gatorade and kissed one of the players?
> Or maybe he was covered in sticky Gatorade and unwittingly was
> sticking to the players mouth...
> 
We should send these excuses to him. For a fee.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see that Big Brother is back for it's 25th season.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ugh!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But of course it is... It's what the people want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People are stupid!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gatorade contains a lot of electrolytes... (guess the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference for the chance to win a modest prize)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Idiocracy?
>>>>>>>>>>> Yup! I'll mail you a gold star...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> YAY! I hardly get any snail mail anymore.
>>>>>>>>>> This is so exciting.
>>>>>>>>> Hang on. I need to find a stamp... I'm sure there are some
>>>>>>>>> around here somewhere.
>>>>>>>> I'm so excited. I never win anything. I have to pee!
>>>>>>> You know what they say: You can't win unless you play. Maybe you
>>>>>>> should start doing some sportsball or something... After you are
>>>>>>> done peeing, obviously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't picture me playing team sports.
>>>>> There are types of sportsball where you play alone (against an
>>>>> opponent, obviously). Also without team sport you don't get to
>>>>> imbibe the team spirit...
>>>> No. I get that at work.
>>> Oohh! do you get to go on retreats and play stupid games too? (Made
>>> up by a genuine behaviourist sociologist.)
>> 
>> Before COVID, we had stupid team building exercises.
>> One time a manager brought in a bag of carrots and tried to get us
>> all to go outside and make a snowman.
> This was in winter, one assumes.
> 
You're so SMRT.

>> Another manager had a stuffed animal that each person was supposed to
>> take home for the weekend and then share the toys adventures with the
>> rest of the team.
> Invasion of privacy if I ever saw it. Mind, if it had been me the
> stuffy thing would most likely have experienced doing laundry and
> watching telly. Very adventurous.

My adventure would be: Merlyne spends entire weekend trying to find an 
identical animal after BF's dog shreds the toy.

> 
>> During COVID, they tried a bunch of virtual events because they think
>> we are retarded 6 year olds. Show 'n' tell, anyone?
> I don't remember most of the stupid tasks we were given at those
> sessions. Most of they were to do with working as a team, and everyone
> was faffing about getting nowhere until someone took charge and
> started giving orders. More often than I care to remember someone
> being me - just to get the thing over with. Great way to consolidate
> respect for section managers and such who was doing their fair share
> of faffing. 

The formal team building thingees that I've been to have a facilitator 
who gets the ball rolling. Sometimes literally. I was at one where 
participants were not allowed to speak unless they were holding the 
ball.

> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They do show Colombo (again) but late at night and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still remember all the plots from last time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember all the Columbo plots. Doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter since they show you who did at the beginning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the show. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes but Colombo is more about howdonit than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whodunit... and Colombo pretending to be dumb but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really being very smart of course. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And one more thing...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah, it must have slipped my mind for a moment...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have Acorn and BritBox now so I can catch up on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all my British murder mystery shows. I feel with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the writer and actor strike that there may be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long tv show drought. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get BritBox as well (on that streaming service).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have Yes Minister/Prime Minister.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never watched that one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a good introduction into how gubbernment *really*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works... sort of. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish Good Omens and then watch the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest season of The Witcher. The next season of The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wheel of time starts September 1. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did see a Canadian police series in french. It had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the right characters:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a neuro-divergent sketch artist with 'amazing'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abilities, - a wheel-chair bound, female chief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always wearing a baseball cap, - a young arab gay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forensic investigator, - a semi-alcoholic older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detective who broke all the rules (violently) - a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> middle aged female researcher, who was a former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elite hacker. And that was just the Good Guys(tm). 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know that one. I used to watch 'District 31'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I was on language training.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Portrait Robot' in Canadian. ('The Sketch Artist' in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'danish'). I don't know 'District 31' but I do have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Belgian series of all things, all about sex-crimes..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Flemish language. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And speaking of programming, I wrote a Python
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program today without taking a course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had no idea you were a parseltongue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I had to do something after I failed out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wizard school. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that even possible. I thought you would just have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to take the year again. Or become Key Warden or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But eventually they found out that I'm too stupid to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a wizard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that even possible? I thought it's an innate ability
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for those whom it is gifted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm more of a Rincewind type of wizard or not gifted at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all. Smoke and mirrors!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not familiar. Or _a_ familiar for that matter...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what the cats are for.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have no cat. Also no wizardry.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a cat. It does what it wants.
>>>>>>>>> I'm somewhat familiar with the behaviour of cats.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not familiar with the rules of being a familiar.
>>>>>>>>> Me either. But that's okay since I'm not a cat.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of these day I'm gonna install the ADA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pre-compiler for gcc again and think of something to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code in it... Something with a lot of things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening at the same time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will. Some day...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right after you build that water feature in your yard,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I won't be able to work on the water feature in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> winter, so I could do the installing then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that when you are painting the living room?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *snickers*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No that was this spring, theoretically... Or next spring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some time when I can keep the doors and windows open.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyhoo....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should learn Python so that you can nitpit my code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What made you think that I don't know Python? (I don't,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but still) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a calculated risk. It was created after you left
>>>>>>>>>>>> school and were a fully functioning adult with a regular
>>>>>>>>>>>> day job. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut I was reasonably capable of learning several
>>>>>>>>>>> programming languages for many years after that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As did I.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think once MS took over the workplace, most people learned
>>>>>>>>>> VB. 
>>>>>>>>> And some probably even learned a programming language as well.
>>>>>>>> Probably.
>>>>>>>> I usually end up teaching myself.
>>>>>>> Whereas I on several occasions ended up teaching others...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't taught anyone to program, but I do end up reviewing
>>>>>> other people's code. I get questions about 'How do I do thing X?'
>>>>>> I have one programmer who can't program from scratch. I usually
>>>>>> have to meet with him and outline step 1, step 2 etc.
>>>>> But you are supposed to learn that in programmer school...?
>>>> I think his degree is in Philosophy or History or something non-
>>>> programming. How he got into this line of work, I'll never know. He
>>>> told me his dream job would be to work on video games. He would die
>>>> in that job.
>>> Probably. How he got the job: probably the same way as everyone else
>>> - lied on his resume...
>> 
>> I would be impressed if that were the case. This one has about 0 
>> initiative. 
> Maybe you could assign him to go to all the meetings...? Just tell him
> to say "No".
> 

He doesn't speak at meetings. Then he would come back and wouldn't 
remember what went on at the meeting.

>>>>>> Sometimes people write 10 pages of code to do something when all
>>>>>> they need is the coalesce function.
>>>>> Isn't that more an unwillingness to RT(F)M?
>>>> No one does that.
>>> I always did. And it served me well on many occasions. More people
>>> should RTM.
>> 
>> You lost the F!
> If one RTM before it becomes am urgent necessity there is no F
> involved. 
> 
Which never happens.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> What made you think I can't nitpick any code from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> position of relative ignorance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But really. Code is code. The symbols may be different but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic is forever...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what I keep telling coworkers who are panicking
>>>>>>>>>>>> about having to learn Python or R. If you can program, you
>>>>>>>>>>>> can do it in any language. You just have to learn to
>>>>>>>>>>>> syntax. 
>>>>>>>>>>> And memorise all the function libraries, of course... Piece
>>>>>>>>>>> of cake. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nah. I mean the stuff I use often will get engraved in my
>>>>>>>>>> mind. Anything else, will be googled.
>>>>>>>>> But... your productivity!!1!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All pensionable time!
>>>>>>>> If they want me to be more productive, they need to get me more
>>>>>>>> staff and stop assigning me extra work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your productivity isn't going to increase if you run out of work
>>>>>>> to do. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That will never happen. When we are understaffed, I don't have
>>>>>> time to focus on my own work. All the work has to be distributed
>>>>>> amongst the existing staff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Delegation is work, though. Particularly if you have staff.
>>>>
>>>> It's a delicate balanacing act.
>>>
>>> Another reason why wearing heels to work is a bad idea?
>>>
>> I definitely wobble less in flat shoes.
> 
> One of several reasons why I never wore high heels to work.
> 

Heels are my way of elevating myself aove the frey.
Plus I'm 5'5".