Re: 14th

On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> 
>> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>
>>>> On 09.09.2023 22.51, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06.09.2023 14.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30.08.2023 14.42, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> [unreadable stuff snipped]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stay out of my birdfeeder!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell that to the bears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *opens window*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *yells 'Hey bears, stay out of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> birdfeeder* The birdfeeders are in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> garage. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you get many garage birds? Mine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>> too but that's because I only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feed the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> birds in the winter. This time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year >>> they steal all my cherries -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ripe or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putting the birdfeeder in the garage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >> an interim (and temporary) measure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> dissuade the bears. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how resistant your garage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is, but I've heard of bears ripping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out > doors if the reward (or need) is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> high > enough. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen any bears sightings in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the  area for a while. It worked. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's good then. Unless the bears are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a tactical pause while they wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the birdfeeder to re-appear... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they've hacked my wifi and have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ordered their own seeds. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be alright though, wouldn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless they used your credit card to pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which could happen if they get into my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon account. Oh deer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not deer, bears. I doubt deer are good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haxors, what with the hooves instead .of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands. Also the antlers tend to knock over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the screen when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they look down on the keyboard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They need to get cellphones so they can say
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Alexa, buy me some birdseed and a mink coat'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who Alexa is, but they still need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be able to dial the number first...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they don't. That's how Alexa works. You talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the phone and it does stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's Siri, innit? Or GoOoOogle, maybe. Anyway
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they need to unlock the phone first, and I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think face-recognition works very well with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bear-faced seed-stealers. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't use face recognition on my phone. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be hard for them to guess and then type my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pin. they'd have to use a twig which I imagine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be hard to hold onto without opposable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thumbs] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bears could use a claw possibly. If they were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> careful. Bearclaws are very pointy and sharp. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind attached to bear arms; not the pastry kind. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I want a pastry :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There you go. I'm sure it's all very healthy:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wienerbr%C3%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B8d&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ia=images 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of good a picture will do me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I bought some 2-bite apple turnover thingees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the store. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure they were good too, for what they were.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-bite? As in tiny ones?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect for when you need something sweet but don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to eat a big slab of pie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that what fruit is for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if your not in the mood for fruit?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if you want caek or pie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if eating cake or pie is highly discouraged?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it's on no country's food pyramid.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The baker's guild begs to differ.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They can beg all they want. Cake and pie will never get on
>>>>>>>>>>> the pyramid. 
>>>>>>>>>> But I'm certain there was plenty of delicious baked goods *in*
>>>>>>>>>> the pyramids. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like what?
>>>>>>>>> Something their Mummy made?
>>>>>>>> A chicken wrap maybe...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ramen noodles?
>>>>>>>>> Fruit of the Tomb?
>>>>>>>> Tut y fruity Ice cream...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ancient Egyptian puns are hard :(
>>>>>>> I'll end making an asp of myself.
>>>>>> You can probably ask your smart phone... that O'Siris thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> That didn't land.
>>>> Did your eye-phone die?
>>> As if I can afford or want one of those.
>>
>> I'm confident your [brand] smart phone has a similar Oracle-like
>> functionality by whatever name.
> 
> I never use it since if I shout a question at it, it shouts back the 
> answer.
That'll learn you to speak nicely to the mindless piece of software.
You do know that [Mega tech Corporation] has records of all your
shouting now, right? You probably get served a lot of ads for lozenges
and such.

>>>>>>>> Whatever an ancient dead pharaoh/demi-god liked to eat with
>>>>>>>> their coffee, I guess.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did they have coffee? 
>>>>>> What good would being an ancient pharaoh if it didn't include
>>>>>> coffee? 
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering when coffee was introduced to Egypt.
>>>> Now I am too. Are you going to look it up?
>>> *sigh*
>>> According to the National Coffee Association (who knew?):
>>> "By the 15th century, coffee was being grown in the Yemeni district
>>> of Arabia and by the 16th century it was known in Persia, Egypt,
>>> Syria, and Turkey. Coffee was not only enjoyed in homes, but also in
>>> the many public coffee houses — called qahveh khaneh — which
>>> began to appear in cities across the Near East."
>>>
>>> Not in King Tut's time.
>>
>> No wonder he died young, then.
> 
> I thought he was murdered.
Don't think so... He was a sickly kid born with all sorts of defects.
Perhaps not too surprising, given the family tradition of selecting
spouses from within the family.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if you need all the vitamin C you can get?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I eat lots of fruit during the day. And broccoli.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get too much vitamin C, you pee it out.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If only the broccoli poison were that easy to get rid of as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ugh! Not this again!
>>>>>>>>>> Right. Abolish broccoli.
>>>>>>>>> Just accept it's existence and move on.
>>>>>>>> Does that sound like something a rabid cult leader would do?
>>>>>>>> Banish the abomination!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well..
>>>>>>> When you're snoring in your yurt in your spiderman pajamas, I
>>>>>>> will sneak out and eat brocolli.
>>>>>> HAH. And Hah again. I don't even have any spiderman pyjamas... So
>>>>>> there! {and I'm not going to comment on your spelling}
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty sure that's how 'yurt' is spelt.
>>>> Sure. And broccoli is no less evil no matter how it's spelled.
>>>
>>> I thought we agreed that you would stop saying negative things about 
>>> broccoli if I agreed not to serve it to you?
>> You brought i up and I couldn't help myself.
> 
> uh-huh.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe if you fed the birds in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they wouldn't take your cherries.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They >> tend to steal berries like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raspberries 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and blueberries. There 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is bird netting that can be purchased
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to  keep them away from the fruit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> q=bird+netting&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds, insect larva or mildew - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result is the same: not very many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cherries for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me. At least with the birds I have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleasure of being woken up very, very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> early by their 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maniacal chirping... And 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bird poop on the windows. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are worse ways to be woken up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly. Like the neighbour speaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to her mother - at festival volume. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or snoring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the cat barfing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could go on and on...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a barfing cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should definitely get one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need. I already have the birds and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neighbour. And also the neighbours
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hysterical smushy faced mutt... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behold! The pugliest dog in the world!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For sleeping soundlessly through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> night, I'm a huge fan of ear plugs. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you are missing all the birdsong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given that the windows haven't been open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at night for some time due to air quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warnings and/or hot, humid weather, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably missing a lot of outdoor sounds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not that I'd hear them. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That global climate change has a lot to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer for. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I won't hear the answer because of the ear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugs. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can read about it in the paper later...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one reads newspapers anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are on-line versions. On the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, no reads newspapers anymore. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get their news from social media. Except in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada where Meta had a big fight with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get with the Times...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No thanks, that's a Murdock paper now... I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't read stuff like that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember Bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ehh, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh dear!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What!!?! Who is bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a tabloid thing back in the day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Boy_(character)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm shocked - shocked I tell you - to learn that a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newspaper would just make up a story, with no regard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the integrity of the press. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you aren't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That may or may not have been sarcastic...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it was fake outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The outrage is real. The shock maybe not so much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see. Batboy enrages you. Noted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not Batboy as such - the lack of clarity about the fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Batboy was wholly fictional.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's pretty obvious, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although, I'm sure there are a few kooks who believe he is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> real. *shrug*
>>>>>>>>>>>> I refer you to the case of the radio dramatisation of H.G.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wells' "The War of the Worlds".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, yes...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is also the ancient dictum (about writing manuals):
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't write to be understood - write to not be
>>>>>>>>>>>> *mis*understood. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I always write user guide like the audience is a 6 year old.
>>>>>>>>>>> Even then (with screenshots) people mess things up.
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a math professor that told me: it's not that people
>>>>>>>>>>> can't do math, they just can't read.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ah...the lost art of reading...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of... I just finished The Clan of the Cave Bear. All
>>>>>>>>>> 587 pages of it. That's a lot of words. Not all of them
>>>>>>>>>> strictly necessary in my opinion...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm on book 3 of the Wheel of Time series. The average size is
>>>>>>>>> 826 pages. There are 13 books plus a prequel.
>>>>>>>>> So there!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not that it's a competition or anything but I did finish the
>>>>>>>> next book in the series and am 2/3 through the third.
>>>>>>>> Before that I (re)read the 13 volumes of the chronicles of Pern
>>>>>>>> that I have. It's mostly about dragons - science fiction
>>>>>>>> dragons. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used to read those when I was a teenager. My dad took them to
>>>>>>> work for a book sale and all the computer nerds lost their minds.
>>>>>> That can't have been good for productivity...
>>>>>
>>>>> They were government jobs.
>>>> Government jobs have productivity measurements too. They are just...
>>>> different.
>>>
>>> People who don't work in the government seem to think we don't any
>>> work. 
>> I have been working a lot alongside public employees of various kinds.
>> To avoid annoying you I shall refrain from commenting on this. They do
>> hold a lot of meetings, though. Long meetings.
>>
> When I worked for Census, we did have a lot of meetings.
> Not so much where I am now.
> Depends on who's in charge.
When I was there it was usually because of some (major) changes in
organisation and/or workflow. Gotta hold meetings about that sort of thing.

>>>>>> I never knew about them before I inherited them, and I didn't
>>>>>> consider them for reading for a long time, thinking they were
>>>>>> 'Fantasy'. Because of the dragons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I liek dragons!
>>>>> The books are more about how civilization can devolve.
>>>> And the importance of preserving knowledge.
>>>> And how some people are just shitty humans, through malice or
>>>> ignorance. And dragons.
>>>
>>> YAY! Dragons!
>> Yes. Science-fictionally believable dragons.
>>
>>>>>>> I haven't been reading as much as I normally do in the summer.
>>>>>>> Usually, I go outside and lounge and read but this summer has
>>>>>>> been either super hot or raining, making the mosquitoes quite
>>>>>>> fierce. Also my Kobo broke. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming a Kobo is some kind of e-reader and not your favourite
>>>>>> lounge-chair, let me point out that books also come as
>>>>>> self-contained stacks of printed paper...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. I can put several on a Kobo which weighs a few ounces. This
>>>>> comes in handy when you finish a book when you are away from home.
>>>> Unless you run out of battery and forget the charger.
>>> Yep that could happen.
>> And that would be bad.
> I can play with my phone instead.
I thought the phone was for public transport and zoom-meetings...

>>>>> Also, with paper books, you have to procure more and then rid
>>>>> yourself of them once finished.
>>>> Get Rid Of Books!!?? What is this madness. What if you want to read
>>>> them again at some point?
>>>
>>> The number of books that I keep is very small.
>> Which for instance prohibits you from now re-reading the chronicles of
>> Pern.
>>
> Which I don't want to reread.
Okay then. Don't read about the dragons...

>>>> Also a Kobo has infinite storage, I take it?
>>> I forget how many books it can hold. More that you can carry even
>>> with a cargo bike.
>>> So there!
>> Hard-cover or paperback? My cargo bike is rated for 200Kg. How many
>> books is that?
>>
> 
> My new one can hold 12,000 books. How much does that weigh?

From an admittedly small sample size paperbacks weigh ~50g/100pages.
Assuming an average length of 350 pages that's 175g * 12000 or about 2.1
metric tons. However you aren't going to read nearly that many books in
one sitting/vacation/year(/lifetime).
One cargo bike full is about 1200 books, which will do me quite well for
a while.

-- 
BeH

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