Re: Polar vortex

On 26.09.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]: 
> 
>> On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>
>>>> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09.09.2023 22.51, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [attributions]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [arbitrations]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [artifacts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [artifactory]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [artichoke factory]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [olfactory]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [oligarchy]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [obfuscate]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [operate]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [oaklike]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Oakley]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [offramp]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [osprey]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ookpik]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [awww... olympic]
>>>>>>>>>>> [ouched]
>>>>>>>>>> [outré]
>>>>>>>>> [outrém]
>>>>>>>> [latlh]
>>>>>>> [?]
>>>>>> [Same thing but in klingon... or so goooogele claims]
>>>>> [I thought you had a stroke]
>>>> [The way my brane has been misfiring lately I might as well have
>>>> had. Is chronic fatigue a symptom of a stoke?]
>>> [I'm not a medical professional. Anyone I know who had a stroke has 
>>> paralysis of some kind i.e. they can't move the left side of their
>>> body or have slurred speach. Extreme fatigue can be a symptom of
>>> about a million things like a virus/allergies or vitamin deficiency.
>>> You should see your doctor]
>> [Or take more naps. Naps help so I probably didn't have a stroke.]
> [Okay then. Mystery solved]
[And without everybody having to listen to a lengthy monologue in the
library, too.]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [gone but not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forgotten] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I've already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forgotten] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Doesn't bode well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>> your >>>> end >> of >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> term > >>>> exams. >> You >> want >> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >> paste >>>> it >>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back >> in?] >>>>>>>>>> [exams?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes. At the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>> year.] >>>>>>>>>> [So I still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>> some >> time >> then] >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right >> attitude. If 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>> don't keep up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during >>>> the >>>> year >>>> you'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >> able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get >> through 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it all in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revision.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll copy off your test]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I shall be giving the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test.] >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Then you'll give me a good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark >>>>>>>> because 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we know each other] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That is not how it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >> is >>>> not >>> how anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works. Also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> may >> be >>> someone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else doing the marking.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You'll tell me the answers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >> I >>>> get >> a >> good mark] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That would be cheating]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [So? do you want me to fail?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I want you to study, apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make the effort, stuff like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that] >>>>>> [Why? What's in it for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?] >>>>> [I want you to do well, is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all] >>>> [I'm destined to fail since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>> even  know what I'm being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tested >> about] >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's about all the vital and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information being presented in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very > newsgroup. I though that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Nope. Was as clear as mud. I think I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be away that day.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You are going to make me look bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when > no-one passes my test.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Looks good on you since you refused to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help me out] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [So my options are to look like an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incompetent test-giver or behave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unethically? Why do you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate me?] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Deflect!]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What?! Squirrel? Where...?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparerntly you've mistaken me for a dog.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the squirrel wasn't the deflection? What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was it, then? Surely it can't be the pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swallows that has built their nest on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> door to my garage/storage shed/workshop.... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a workshop?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a long table with a lamp and a couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of vises and a lot of stuff on it in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garage. That ought to count. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not that I can easily get to it at the moment,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the nest on the door. The eggs have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hatched so it's now a nest of baby birds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constantly being fed by two very busy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swallows. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears I was wrong. The increased activity I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observed must have been a final effort to finish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nest before laying. Probably something to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a mortgage maturing or some such. So we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all still waiting for the hatching (and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gender reveal party). 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully it won't start a fire.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Swallows have more sense than that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There'll be 2 of each.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We shall see. All in good time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [waits]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing further to report yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [waits some more]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THEY LIVE. I hear them when the parent-birds bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> food (and remove droppings). So far I've only seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> three wide-open beaklets at a time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do birds clean the nest?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some do. Mostly (including swallows, sadly) the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> young'uns just excrete over the edge of the nest once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they a big enough to move around a bit. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Watch out below!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't use that door at the moment anyway. I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably be available soon, though. The new birds have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken to fly about... Which hopefully means the pile of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit below the nest won't grow any further. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can clean it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll probably have to. It's not like the birds are gonna do
>>>>>>>>>>>> it. After all I've done for them...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can add it to the obelisk tour -- come and see the
>>>>>>>>>>> amazing guano. 
>>>>>>>>>> I could, I suppose. Only I don't have an obelisk (yet). a
>>>>>>>>>> guano tour might not be as compelling to the touristy masses.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This reminds me of the P.T. Barnum thing about how someone
>>>>>>>>> could put a sign that says 'Come and see the egress --$5' and
>>>>>>>>> people would queue up. People don't know what that it, but they
>>>>>>>>> know if they have to pay, it's worth seeing.
>>>>>>>> Most people know what bird-poop is, though...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have to make it sound exciting. Somehow.
>>>>>> I could have a poster explaining how terrorists use it to blow up
>>>>>> stuff, I suppose.
>>>>> Isn't that chemical fertilizer?
>>>> It's still mostly nitrogen and phosphates - perfectly viable as base
>>>> for a bomb... They used to use guano in gunpowder production in the
>>>> olden days. 
>>>>
>>> Interesting. 
>> That's what Timothy McVeigh said too...
>>
> And where is he now?
Still in prison, presumably.

> I was thinking that back in the old West, their personal hygiene was of 
> low quality, so it might be hard to tell if the guy beside you at the 
> Saloon was loaded and ready for a gun fight.
From my extensive research watching old John Wayne movies, I would say
that the stranger beside you in the saloon is *always* loaded and ready
for a gunfight.

>>>>>>>>> An aside - a coworker and I were discussing this in the kitchen
>>>>>>>>> one day at work. And the other people there wandered over and
>>>>>>>>> asked us what an egress is.
>>>>>>>> I hope you didn't just tell them for free.
>>>>>>> D'oh!
>>>>>> You'll never make billions if you don't think of these things...
>>>>> I guess that's why I'm not a billionaire then.
>>>> It's the first billion that's the hardest, wher you really have to
>>>> put in the effort (or have ancestors who put in the effort). After
>>>> that the billions more or less make themselves. Unless the plebs
>>>> decides to eat you. 
>>>>
>>>
>>> Seems like too much work.
>>> I come from a long line of really poor people.
>> That's the common mistake people who want to become billionaires often
>> make. 
>>
> Why aren't you a billionaire, then?
Because I come from a long line of really poor people.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel like I'm setting myself up for a bad pun here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When have I ever produced a bad pun?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puns, by definition, are bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the puny ones. They are hard to swallow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going cold turkey.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chickening out, you mean...
>>>>>>>>>>> Careful! I have a fowl temper...
>>>>>>>>>> I'll be sure to duck.
>>>>>>>>> At least you'll get some egg-cersize.
>>>>>>>> This is a yoke, right? If I get any more eggcersise I'll be end
>>>>>>>> up a shell of my former self...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see you poached some yolk-tastic egg puns.
>>>>>> Yeah - my humour is really getting air under its wings. Soaring
>>>>>> you might say.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Shell-arious! Don't get whisked away...
>>>> Not likely - I'm not exactly a featherweight...
>>> Dammit! I already used egg-cersise!
>>> And I was quilling these puns...
>> I'm down to end it here if you wish...
> I'm in. As long as it doesn't ruffle any feathers.
We can only implore everyone to calm their tits, as the saying goes.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also I don't see a possible pun presenting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phew!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would make me stark raven mad!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no reason to let your gull rise because of a pun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm starling to get annoyed owl-ready.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't go all emu on me...
>>>>>>>>>>> That one flew over my head.
>>>>>>>>>> HA! Emus don't even fly. ('Emo's may or may not, but they
>>>>>>>>>> aren't happy about it either way.)
>>>>>>>>> Those kids quack me up!
>>>>>>>> Don't crow about it; I'm sure you hade your phase of being edgy
>>>>>>>> and different too...
>>>>>>> I got tweetment for it.
>>>>>> Must have been a trill for you. Did you get coffee and magpie
>>>>>> after? 
>>>>> Yes! I gobbled it up!
>>>> That must have been quite a large bill. I this economy.
>>> It was actually cheep.
>> Just a few loonies, then?
> [OOOO! Excellent knowledge of local currencies]
> Yep! It makes cents that I would have some.
Attached to a magnet, perhaps... [1]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aww...cute!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. They'll dive-bomb you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The last pair I had didn't. They were too busy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to worry about me at all. At most they made an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extra go-around to try and confuse me - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant predator - before landing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Except you aren't a predator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't know that. Also I could be a fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hazard. No smoke without and such...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you shouldn't smoke around their home.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not. I'm smoking around *my' home.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that's not how the birds see things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, they probably see a giant potential predator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get off the lawn!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's my lawn and I'll do what I want. Anyway I'm mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standing on the doorstep when I observe the nest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ooo! A peeper!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {more of a frog joke}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can put in a good word, if you liek.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You speak swallow? These are barn swallows; they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may have quite a strong accent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have an app that talks to birds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As in making bird sounds...?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually enrages them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's usually male birds that make the most noise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something about how great they are at the sex and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bringing up young'uns. And they as a rule don't like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other male birds making noise close by. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some male birds make the nest. I'm sure some the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bragging is about that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That too... pretty important part of bringing up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> young'uns. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bragging about making a nest is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building a brag-worthy nest is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's mostly twigs and mud. Low resale value.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet they tend to come back to it year after year. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the little (staying) birds like to use it in winter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The birds here don't seem to reuse nests. The robins have 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> batches and seem to make a new nest each time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe it's part of the pagentry of laying eggs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe they just have to much time on their hands...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Getting their food delivered and all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like Uber eats?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not familiar. There is no Uber here. They got mad and
>>>>>>>>>> closed down when they found out they had to follow the rules
>>>>>>>>>> for taxi companies (having a licence and paying their drivers
>>>>>>>>>> and such). Also I live in the county-side. I don't think
>>>>>>>>>> anyone delivers to here... 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think UberEats delivers here either :(
>>>>>>>>> A few places in the Village will.
>>>>>>>> 'My' village is too small to have places...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It must have somewhere to buy tobacco.
>>>>>> That's in the bizarrely places suburban neighbourhood down the
>>>>>> road. And anyway they don't always have what I need, and I have to
>>>>>> go all the way into bigtown.
>>>>> Oh no!
>>>> Oh yes! And it's four times the distance...
>>>>
>>> You need the exercise.
>>
>> I need the tobacco products is what I need. The exercise is
>> incidental. 
>>
> And better than none.
I get a reasonable amount of exercise anyway. It keeps me going...

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