Re: Phil

BeH <[email protected]> Tue, 3 Oct 2023 00:33:11 +0200
Newsgroups alt.acme.exploding.newsgroup
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 26.09.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]: 
> 
>> On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>
>>>> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy birthday to you, wherever you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> North Carolina?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't surprise me if he's one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >> those off-the-grid mountain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> men/prepper 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kooks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then hew may not see this...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Phil! (just in case)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH - Spring is here...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       <boing-boing> look at it go!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dude! you need to spring into summer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not unless it stops raining half the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day. And the heavy wind abates. One
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could mistake this for autumn... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucky you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been hot and humid here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/weather/forecasts/a-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hot-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mugg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> y-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week-in-ontario-and-quebec-could-break-
>>>>>>> records
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have just had two days with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highest 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global tempetature ever (in recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history) they said on the news. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also had a story about a local ferry who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to raise their mooring points
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher water level or something. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't paying attention. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it an El Nino year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so, but that doesn't immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affect me personally, so... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to remember this weather when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's -40C in February. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can set a reminder on your phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can but won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about you set a reminder on your phone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to remind me? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know when it's -40C in your area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone should invent a website when people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could search for the weather in other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an idea... But don't you have people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the TV or radio tell you how the weather is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be. That's how I usually find out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also I don't think such a website will tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it's -40C a half year in advance. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already told you when to look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regrettably I can't go into the future to look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the website, which makes setting an alarm now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pure guesswork... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you miss the part when I said February?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Hence the need for time-travel as February is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a good six months in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that even a monkey could set a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder on their phone for February right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But setting a reminder now on your phone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> February with the correct weather forecast for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day is something else entirely. Find me a monkey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that can do *that*. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to set a reminder on your phone for February
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to check the temperature here so that you can remind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about how I was bitching about the heat in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rationally it's bound to be colder next February that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this summer, so the checking of temperature shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really be needed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that I'm not sure how to set a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder on my phone. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A smart guy like you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There have never been a need...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had to set one last week, oddly for February.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then _you_ can check the weather at the same time. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need for me to be involved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already know what the weather is here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the whole setting reminder/checking webpages is moot?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point was ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nevermind!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fine. Just don't complain about the cold come February, or
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to remind you how you complained about the heat in
>>>>>>>>>>>> July. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. It's a date!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually it's a month. So 29 dates, really. I'm only going to
>>>>>>>>>> remind you once, though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Great! Then I only have to ignore you once.
>>>>>>>> At most. Maybe I'll forget to remind you.
>>>>>>> Super!
>>>>>>> I already feel like I just got away with something.
>>>>>> If you start complaining about the cold I'll probably remember,
>>>>>> though.... 
>>>>>>
>>>>> You're putting a lot of pressure on me not to complain about the 
>>>>> weather.
>>>>> It's what Canadians do best!
>>>>
>>>> That's because you have very little else to complain aboot, eh?
>>>
>>> We complain about foreigners who say we say 'aboot'.
>> People still do that? Enough to complain about - even if you have
>> nothing else to complain about except the weather?
>>
> There is no shortage of things to complain aboot.
I know, right. There's weather ALL THE TIME!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I put it on my calendar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a calendar too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ugh!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RTFM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. (Actually I did but only to stop all the 'automatic'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality attempting to breach my privacy.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remind me, why did you get a cellphone?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Two factor authentication! The bank made it so I couldn't do
>>>>>>>>>>>> transactions over a certain amount without using the code
>>>>>>>>>>>> they sent via SMS. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I need 2 step authentication to even sign into my bank
>>>>>>>>>>> account (and a whole bunch of other accounts). Which I don't
>>>>>>>>>>> mind. They have options for people without cellphones. They
>>>>>>>>>>> can call a number and an automated robo-voice says the code
>>>>>>>>>>> OR the code is sent to the email they have on file. Stuff
>>>>>>>>>>> like that. 
>>>>>>>>>> That must be nice, having options like that. Even the damn
>>>>>>>>>> supermarket chains have 'apps' now, with special discounts one
>>>>>>>>>> only gets if one pays through the app. I don't buy any of
>>>>>>>>>> those items... 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most store have rewards apps now. The grocery stores track our
>>>>>>>>> purchases and then give coupons based on the buying history (I
>>>>>>>>> assume). The stupid thing is they send coupons every week for
>>>>>>>>> items that need to be purchased once a month or less frequently
>>>>>>>>> OR the coupon is for bonus points for every $10 spent on an
>>>>>>>>> item that costs $9.99. Like I'm buying 2 10kg drums of
>>>>>>>>> mayonnaise. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First of all I'm appalled that you even consider buying one 10kg
>>>>>>>> drum of mayonnaise. How can anyone use that much before it goes
>>>>>>>> rancid. The apps our stores have have actual reduced prices for
>>>>>>>> normal in-the-store stuff that non-app users can also buy - but
>>>>>>>> at the not-reduced price. I don't know how this than be legal...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's like a club, innit?
>>>>>>> So you get the app and then you save too.
>>>>>> I don't care what they call it - it's still discrimination based
>>>>>> on concern for one's privacy.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's loyalty program for loyal customers. You have to subscribe to
>>>>> get the discounts.
>>>> It's actually slightly dodgy according to danish trade law, and they
>>>> have to wriggle things a bit to not get harsh words from the
>>>> consumer ombudsmand.
>>>>
>>> So I guess you don't want to save money.
>> I want everybody to be able to save money - regardless of whether they
>> have a smrt-phone and choose to install the shops stupid app.
> 
> Life doesn't work that way.
Well it should. And when I'm the undisputed ruler...
> 
>>
>>>>>>> I didn't buy that much mayonnaise. It was an exaggeration for 
>>>>>>> illustrative purposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still appalled that 10kg drums of mayonnaise is a thing that is
>>>>>> available to private households.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What if it was a 10kg drum of coffee?
>>>> That would be fine, especially if it involved a substantial rebate.
>>>> Using 10kg of coffee before it goes bad is easy enough. Also coffee
>>>> doesn't go rancid the same way mayonnaise does.
>>>>
>>> I would never use either before they went to the dark side.
>>
>> You can keep coffee in the freezer - keeps it fresh an potent...
>>
> *gasp*
> I used to keep coffee in the freezer until my hippie uncle started 
> roasting his own. Apparently, you're never supposed to keep it in the 
> freezer but in an air-tight container at room temperature.
I've kept coffee in the freezer for years with no apparent ill effect. I
suspect the airtightness of the container is the important bit. And
coffee comes mostly vacuum packed around here. (Pre-roasted too.)

-- 
BeH

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