Re: Crossed the threshhold

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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> On 26.09.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]: 
>> 
>>> On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>
>>>>> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> [*munch* Mmmm crunchy usenet post]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. Never mind. So obelisks. The egyptians made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of those back in the day. And then the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English (and the french) stole some of them. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fascinating. Also very phallic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stealing obelisks? That's more of an imperialistic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, I would say. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obelisk envy. Definitely a guy thing ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't know... I don't feel deprived. Also I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no good place to put an obelisk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It definitely needs to go out by the road where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passersby can admire and/or steal it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could put it where my tower used to be, I suppose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ('My tower' being an old power distribution hut they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took down a couple of years ago.) Also we don't get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of englishers (or frenchers) around here so unlikely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone will steal an obelisk. A stele on the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hand... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who would steal a stele over an obelisk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the englishers (and the frenchers) have done some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stele stealing as well over time - when there were no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> obelisks around. Ultimately it's going to be a stelistic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice, innit? Also an obelisk is pretty unhandy to lug
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about unobtrusively. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They would put it lying down in the back of wagon, no?
>>>>>>>>>>> If they happen to have a wagon. Many of the foreign types
>>>>>>>>>>> coming by here are biking... I can't imagine it will be easy
>>>>>>>>>>> to take away a stele on a bike without being noticed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess it depends on how big it is.
>>>>>>>>>> Size matters.
>>>>>>>>> There are practical limits to how big a bike can be... not
>>>>>>>>> least if it is to be powered the proper way: with people
>>>>>>>>> muscles. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought you meant the size of the stele.
>>>>>>> I did, but the idea of a (cargo-)bike big enough to carry a
>>>>>>> stele - or an obelisk - appealed to me. It would probably have
>>>>>>> to be made of steel... for sturdyness. Quite a job to get
>>>>>>> something like that up the hills. Especially laden with a stele.
>>>>>> What is the minimum stele size? Maybe we should focus on stealing
>>>>>> small steles.
>>>>> I imagine there is a practical minimal size for steles - a tiny
>>>>> rock isn't going to be very impressive, and also it would likely
>>>>> be difficult to still make out the inscriptions for old steles.
>>>>> Also stumpy stolen steles aren't as attractive in a tourist-trap
>>>>> sense as the bigger ones. 
>>>>>
>>>> I dunno.
>>>> In 2020, people were really into those rocks that kids were
>>>> painting and leaving in parks. Maybe we could colourize a small one
>>>> to make it more attractive?
>>> In 2020 people were really into going to parks in general.
>>> Also painting a stele would compromise the sense of historical
>>> impact and thus the monetary benefit. See how people reacted when
>>> museums started displaying greek and roman sculpture with the
>>> original paint scheme. 
>>>
>> 
>> I am unfamiliar with that, not being part of the 'museum' set.
> I have been to a museum or two in my time. Not recently - they are all
> far away, except the local tractor-museum. But anyway:
> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/see-the-vibrant-long-
overlook
> ed-colors-of-classical-sculptures-180980321/ 
> 

Cool! I like the gold torso.
See. Colour enhances them.

>> I am, however, familiar with how well received Ted Turner was when he
>> colourized old movies.
> Everybody clapped and cheered?
> 
Exactly!

>> He was trying to bring them to life and make them real.
>> Same thing applies to the steles.
> I'm pretty sure there are rules against smearing paint on genuine
> archaeoligical artifacts.
> 
No one will know if it's genuine or not.
Anyways, I didn't have you pegged as a rule follower.

>>>>>> Make sure you bring a tarp so that the stolen stele is stealth.
>>>>> I think that is stipulated in the stele-stealing subject...
>>>>>
>>>> It wasn't.
>>> It is my understanding that stealthily stealing large objects
>>> involves covering it up en route. Similar to using carpets for
>>> moving bodies. 
>>>
>> 
>> I thought the objective was to take the thing and get away as fast as
>> possible. 
>> I can see the headline: 'The theives were captured as they stood
>> there fastening the tarp to the get-away bike'
> If you plan to be apprehended while still on the site a tarp probably
> isn't going to make any difference one way or the other. The first
> principle of stele-stealing is to do it without being seen.
> 
I get that. I didn't plan on getting caught. It was a side-effect of you 
farting around with the bike.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to put up a signage on a busy road. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Come and see the obelisk 2 km ---> "
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be nervous someone might accuse me of having
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen the obelisk. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That seems like a Viking kinda thing to do...
>>>>>>>>>>> Nah... If it ain't gold or silver (or wimmen) it ain't worth
>>>>>>>>>>> the space. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I pity the fool who steals me.
>>>>>>>>> Oh, I'm sure I could get a decent price for you in the
>>>>>>>>> Mediterranean market...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But why would you want to?
>>>>>>>> I has a sad now :(
>>>>>>> It's what the Vikings did, mostly. In Ireland at least.
>>>>>>> Sometimes they took the wimmen to Iceland instead - to work in
>>>>>>> the service industy. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Freshen your drink, Govner?
>>>>> That too, I suppose - but mostly milk the cows and churn the
>>>>> butter kind of stuff. Also a considerable amount of Irish-origin
>>>>> DNA is still present in the Icelandic population.
>>>>>
>>>> Uh-huh
>>>>
>>>>>> My colouring is more from the Scottish ancestors. Your might get
>>>>>> charged with fraud or beaten up for trying to pawn me off as
>>>>>> Irish. 
>>>>> I rather think it would make little difference, as long as you are
>>>>> good at thrashing grain and herding sheep and such...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see. By 'service industry' you meant slavery. I thought you meant
>>>> prostitution. 
>>>> Slop your hog, gov'ner?
>>> I don't know if they brought pigs along to Iceland.
>>> And they were definitely going out of fashion in the mediterranean
>>> market. 
>>>
>> Good. I don't like pork.
> As a thrall the menu choices may be somewhat limited in any case. How
> do you feel about gruel?
> 
That's just oatmeal. I like oatmeal.

>>>>>>>>>>>> And so what if they think it's stolen? It's not like they
>>>>>>>>>>>> can prove anything. 
>>>>>>>>>>> They could if the obelisk is signed. A lot of obelisk have
>>>>>>>>>>> inscriptions on them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But not signatures, surely.
>>>>>>>>> I think they do have the name of whoever carved the
>>>>>>>>> inscription - or at least who ordered it.
>>>>>>>>> Runic inscription almost always is mostly just that, in spite
>>>>>>>>> of how modest and self-effacing scandinavians are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh you and your sarcasm!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You noticed... :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I usually notice and then ignore it.
>>>>>> {Oooo! I think that's the first time I noticed you using a
>>>>>> smiley} 
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been known to use the odd ascii combinations at times. As
>>>>> long as they don't get autotranslated into graphic emoticons...
>>>>
>>>> Why's that?
>>> I don't like when what is displayed is not what I put. Also I'm not
>>> a fan of picture texting.
>>>
>> 
>> *crosses 'Get dick pics from BeH' off my bucket list*
> A prudent and wise decision. There are no BeH-pics - of any kind.
> 
But there should be.

>>>> This Usenet client is so old that it doesn't do graphics or
>>>> hyperlinks or even utf-8 encoding.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (*' `* - two hairyballs having knife fight.)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Danish very easy crossword, I meant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have picture clues which solves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as > horrible puns... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____  = I over ate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A cartoon of two young witched trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride brooms with an older witch looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unamused. Solution: Kostskole. Kost =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broom or meal(s) (different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pronunciation) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skole = school Kostskole = boarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very punny.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would never get any right since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't  speak the language. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's really easy:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>> v=gHlEOsM5jtA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *bookmark for later*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with that later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll probably forget or get distracted by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squirrel or something... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Squirrels aren't distractions - they are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joy of nature. Unless you have a walnut tree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which I don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither do I, but still I have "hidden"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walnuts all over every year. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway the other day I had one rather small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squirrel being chased off the cherry tree and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the way to the treeline - by sparrows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Turns out sparrows don't think squirrels are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joy of nature. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They aren't, really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soemtimes they get in my garden and take 1 bite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of every single ripe tomato.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quality control.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Death wish, more like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn't...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would if I didn't think another squirrel would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take its place. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can never have too many squirrels...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's at times like this, I wish I could send you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too. I suspect the gray squirrels would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered an invasive species, and not allowed for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import. It didn't go too well for the brits when they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would send the red squirrels. They really are little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shits. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But pretty. And also cute the way they flitter about in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the trees in between stealing produce.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must be some odd definition of the word 'cute' that I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously unaware of.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are biased against the cute little critters...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be chocked to learn that you don't find a baby
>>>>>>>>>>>>> skunk cute either. Unharden your heart, girl.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. Baby animals are cute.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's video making the rounds of a baby elephant chasing
>>>>>>>>>>>> ducks. Very cute!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Squirrels - not so cute.
>>>>>>>>>>> Baby squirrels! QED
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *eye roll*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you even do that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll show you when I go over to see your water feature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That could be a while. Can't you just tell me now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too much typing. Anyways it's more of a visual thing.
>>>>> It would be - invo0lving the eyes as it does. But there have to be
>>>>> some technique involved. Or violence...
>>>>>
>>>> It's 100% an underrated mad skill.
>>> Which you should teach me. Then I would have one mad skill.
>> 
>> I thought you could Photoshop. That's a mad skill.
> I don't even have access to that program. But anyone can cut and paste
> stuff. Nothing mad about that.
> 
I can cut and paste with scissors and glue.

>> I bet you could roll a joint. 
> I can make unsettling sounds with my (left) shoulder joint, if that's
> what you mean.
> 
It isn't but noted.

>>>>>>>>> I'm glad you finally relent in the face of my crushing logic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't refer to twisting my words as crushing logic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, anyway I win.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure. If you say so.
>>>>> {point}
>>>>>
>>>> Don't point that at me, it has a nail in it.
>>> But it's a well trimmed nail...
>>>
>> It's still dangerous.
> Not in the least - the length is optimised for not getting stuff
> caught under it.
> 
It's just plain rude then.

>>>>>>>> But whatever floats your boat.
>>>>>>> Water displacement?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that's what does it for you, who am I to judge?
>>>>> Not just me - that's how everyone's boat float. Physics!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stience!
>>> Or something that's spelled much like that...
>>>
>> It's from a cartoon called 'DisEnchantment' about a drunken princess
>> and her band of friends.
> I'm not familiar. I'm not part of the 'cartoon set'.
> 

Now that's just sad.