Re: Phil

On 04.10.2023 16.13, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]: 
> 
>> On 26.09.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>
>>>> On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy birthday to you, wherever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>> are... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> North Carolina?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't surprise me if he's one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >> those off-the-grid mountain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> men/prepper 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kooks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then hew may not see this...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Phil! (just in case)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH - Spring is here...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       <boing-boing> look at it go!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dude! you need to spring into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not unless it stops raining half the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day. And the heavy wind abates. One
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could mistake this for autumn... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucky you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been hot and humid here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/weather/forecasts/a-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hot-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mugg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> y-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week-in-ontario-and-quebec-could-break- 
>>>>>>>>> records
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have just had two days with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highest 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global tempetature ever (in recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history) they said on the news. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also had a story about a local ferry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who > had to raise their mooring points
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher water level or something. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't paying attention. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it an El Nino year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so, but that doesn't immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affect me personally, so... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to remember this weather when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's -40C in February. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can set a reminder on your phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can but won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about you set a reminder on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone to remind me? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know when it's -40C in your area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone should invent a website when people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could search for the weather in other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an idea... But don't you have people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the TV or radio tell you how the weather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is supposed to be. That's how I usually find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out. Also I don't think such a website will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell when it's -40C a half year in advance. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already told you when to look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regrettably I can't go into the future to look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the website, which makes setting an alarm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now pure guesswork... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you miss the part when I said February?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Hence the need for time-travel as February
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a good six months in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that even a monkey could set a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder on their phone for February right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But setting a reminder now on your phone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> February with the correct weather forecast for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that day is something else entirely. Find me a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monkey that can do *that*. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to set a reminder on your phone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> February to check the temperature here so that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can remind about how I was bitching about the heat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the summer. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rationally it's bound to be colder next February
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that this summer, so the checking of temperature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't really be needed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that I'm not sure how to set a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder on my phone. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A smart guy like you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There have never been a need...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had to set one last week, oddly for February.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then _you_ can check the weather at the same time. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need for me to be involved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already know what the weather is here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the whole setting reminder/checking webpages is moot?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point was ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nevermind!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fine. Just don't complain about the cold come February, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to remind you how you complained about the heat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in July. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. It's a date!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually it's a month. So 29 dates, really. I'm only going
>>>>>>>>>>>> to remind you once, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Great! Then I only have to ignore you once.
>>>>>>>>>> At most. Maybe I'll forget to remind you.
>>>>>>>>> Super!
>>>>>>>>> I already feel like I just got away with something.
>>>>>>>> If you start complaining about the cold I'll probably remember,
>>>>>>>> though.... 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're putting a lot of pressure on me not to complain about the 
>>>>>>> weather.
>>>>>>> It's what Canadians do best!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's because you have very little else to complain aboot, eh?
>>>>>
>>>>> We complain about foreigners who say we say 'aboot'.
>>>> People still do that? Enough to complain about - even if you have
>>>> nothing else to complain about except the weather?
>>>>
>>> There is no shortage of things to complain aboot.
>> I know, right. There's weather ALL THE TIME!
>>
> You should do something about it.
Nobody seems inclined to appoint me undisputed ruler anytime soon.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I put it on my calendar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a calendar too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ugh!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RTFM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. (Actually I did but only to stop all the 'automatic'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality attempting to breach my privacy.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remind me, why did you get a cellphone?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two factor authentication! The bank made it so I couldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do transactions over a certain amount without using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code they sent via SMS. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need 2 step authentication to even sign into my bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>> account (and a whole bunch of other accounts). Which I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't mind. They have options for people without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cellphones. They can call a number and an automated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> robo-voice says the code OR the code is sent to the email
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have on file. Stuff like that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That must be nice, having options like that. Even the damn
>>>>>>>>>>>> supermarket chains have 'apps' now, with special discounts
>>>>>>>>>>>> one only gets if one pays through the app. I don't buy any
>>>>>>>>>>>> of those items... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Most store have rewards apps now. The grocery stores track
>>>>>>>>>>> our purchases and then give coupons based on the buying
>>>>>>>>>>> history (I assume). The stupid thing is they send coupons
>>>>>>>>>>> every week for items that need to be purchased once a month
>>>>>>>>>>> or less frequently OR the coupon is for bonus points for
>>>>>>>>>>> every $10 spent on an item that costs $9.99. Like I'm buying
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 10kg drums of mayonnaise. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First of all I'm appalled that you even consider buying one
>>>>>>>>>> 10kg drum of mayonnaise. How can anyone use that much before
>>>>>>>>>> it goes rancid. The apps our stores have have actual reduced
>>>>>>>>>> prices for normal in-the-store stuff that non-app users can
>>>>>>>>>> also buy - but at the not-reduced price. I don't know how this
>>>>>>>>>> than be legal... 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's like a club, innit?
>>>>>>>>> So you get the app and then you save too.
>>>>>>>> I don't care what they call it - it's still discrimination based
>>>>>>>> on concern for one's privacy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's loyalty program for loyal customers. You have to subscribe
>>>>>>> to get the discounts.
>>>>>> It's actually slightly dodgy according to danish trade law, and
>>>>>> they have to wriggle things a bit to not get harsh words from the
>>>>>> consumer ombudsmand.
>>>>>>
>>>>> So I guess you don't want to save money.
>>>> I want everybody to be able to save money - regardless of whether
>>>> they have a smrt-phone and choose to install the shops stupid app.
>>>
>>> Life doesn't work that way.
>> Well it should. And when I'm the undisputed ruler...
> Oh! Something else to hope for!

I'm still waiting for the appointment to be official...

>>>>>>>>> I didn't buy that much mayonnaise. It was an exaggeration for 
>>>>>>>>> illustrative purposes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still appalled that 10kg drums of mayonnaise is a thing that is
>>>>>>>> available to private households.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What if it was a 10kg drum of coffee?
>>>>>> That would be fine, especially if it involved a substantial
>>>>>> rebate. Using 10kg of coffee before it goes bad is easy enough.
>>>>>> Also coffee doesn't go rancid the same way mayonnaise does.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would never use either before they went to the dark side.
>>>>
>>>> You can keep coffee in the freezer - keeps it fresh an potent...
>>>>
>>> *gasp*
>>> I used to keep coffee in the freezer until my hippie uncle started 
>>> roasting his own. Apparently, you're never supposed to keep it in the
>>> freezer but in an air-tight container at room temperature.
>> I've kept coffee in the freezer for years with no apparent ill effect.
>> I suspect the airtightness of the container is the important bit. And
>> coffee comes mostly vacuum packed around here. (Pre-roasted too.)
>>
> 
> The coffee comes vacuum packed from the store here.
> Coffee roasting will be a valuable skill once the world descends into 
> chaos (zombie apocalyse or whatever). 

All things considered I think I would rather not be awake for that.
(Not that zombies are real or anything)
(Also isn't it bad enough already - what more do you want.)

-- 
BeH

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