Re: Crossed the threshhold

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
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> On 04.10.2023 16.13, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]: 
>> 
>>> On 26.09.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>
>>>>> On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [*munch* Mmmm crunchy usenet post]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. Never mind. So obelisks. The egyptians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made a lot of those back in the day. And then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the English (and the french) stole some of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fascinating. Also very phallic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stealing obelisks? That's more of an imperialistic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, I would say. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obelisk envy. Definitely a guy thing ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't know... I don't feel deprived. Also I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no good place to put an obelisk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It definitely needs to go out by the road where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passersby can admire and/or steal it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could put it where my tower used to be, I suppose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ('My tower' being an old power distribution hut they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took down a couple of years ago.) Also we don't get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of englishers (or frenchers) around here so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unlikely anyone will steal an obelisk. A stele on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hand... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who would steal a stele over an obelisk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the englishers (and the frenchers) have done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some stele stealing as well over time - when there were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no obelisks around. Ultimately it's going to be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stelistic choice, innit? Also an obelisk is pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unhandy to lug about unobtrusively. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They would put it lying down in the back of wagon, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they happen to have a wagon. Many of the foreign types
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming by here are biking... I can't imagine it will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy to take away a stele on a bike without being noticed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess it depends on how big it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Size matters.
>>>>>>>>>>> There are practical limits to how big a bike can be... not
>>>>>>>>>>> least if it is to be powered the proper way: with people
>>>>>>>>>>> muscles. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought you meant the size of the stele.
>>>>>>>>> I did, but the idea of a (cargo-)bike big enough to carry a
>>>>>>>>> stele - or an obelisk - appealed to me. It would probably have
>>>>>>>>> to be made of steel... for sturdyness. Quite a job to get
>>>>>>>>> something like that up the hills. Especially laden with a
>>>>>>>>> stele. 
>>>>>>>> What is the minimum stele size? Maybe we should focus on
>>>>>>>> stealing small steles.
>>>>>>> I imagine there is a practical minimal size for steles - a tiny
>>>>>>> rock isn't going to be very impressive, and also it would likely
>>>>>>> be difficult to still make out the inscriptions for old steles.
>>>>>>> Also stumpy stolen steles aren't as attractive in a tourist-trap
>>>>>>> sense as the bigger ones. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dunno.
>>>>>> In 2020, people were really into those rocks that kids were
>>>>>> painting and leaving in parks. Maybe we could colourize a small
>>>>>> one to make it more attractive?
>>>>> In 2020 people were really into going to parks in general.
>>>>> Also painting a stele would compromise the sense of historical
>>>>> impact and thus the monetary benefit. See how people reacted when
>>>>> museums started displaying greek and roman sculpture with the
>>>>> original paint scheme. 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am unfamiliar with that, not being part of the 'museum' set.
>>> I have been to a museum or two in my time. Not recently - they are
>>> all far away, except the local tractor-museum. But anyway:
>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/see-the-vibrant-long-
>> overlook
>>> ed-colors-of-classical-sculptures-180980321/ 
>>>
>> 
>> Cool! I like the gold torso.
>> See. Colour enhances them.
> 
> The point was that 'important cultural people' for years have lauded
> the pure aesthetics of the unadorned marble of neoclassicism -
> supposedly emulating the ancient greek and roman art - and _then_ they
> found out it was supposed to be painted in bright colours.
> 
It makes them pretty!
>>>> I am, however, familiar with how well received Ted Turner was when
>>>> he colourized old movies.
>>> Everybody clapped and cheered?
>>>
>> Exactly!
>> 
>>>> He was trying to bring them to life and make them real.
>>>> Same thing applies to the steles.
>>> I'm pretty sure there are rules against smearing paint on genuine
>>> archaeoligical artifacts.
>>>
>> No one will know if it's genuine or not.
> The people to whom it belonged before it was stolen will know. And
> possibly some museum nerds too.
> 
Museum nerds don't go out and I'm not scared of some long-dead viking.

>> Anyways, I didn't have you pegged as a rule follower.
> I'm a firm adherent to the principle of not getting caught breaking
> rules. 
> 
Noted.Except for grammar rules.

>>>>>>>> Make sure you bring a tarp so that the stolen stele is stealth.
>>>>>>> I think that is stipulated in the stele-stealing subject...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It wasn't.
>>>>> It is my understanding that stealthily stealing large objects
>>>>> involves covering it up en route. Similar to using carpets for
>>>>> moving bodies. 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought the objective was to take the thing and get away as fast
>>>> as possible. 
>>>> I can see the headline: 'The theives were captured as they stood
>>>> there fastening the tarp to the get-away bike'
>>> If you plan to be apprehended while still on the site a tarp
>>> probably isn't going to make any difference one way or the other.
>>> The first principle of stele-stealing is to do it without being
>>> seen. 
>>>
>> I get that. I didn't plan on getting caught. It was a side-effect of
>> you farting around with the bike.
> If the bike is moving while you apply the tarp you are doing it wrong.

Obviously trying to affix a tarp on a moving bike in almost impossible 
and ill-advised.

> Also nobody is likely to suspect someone on a bike, which is why the
> tarp is important to keep the stele out of sight.
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to put up a signage on a busy road. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Come and see the obelisk 2 km ---> "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be nervous someone might accuse me of having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen the obelisk. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That seems like a Viking kinda thing to do...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah... If it ain't gold or silver (or wimmen) it ain't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth the space. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I pity the fool who steals me.
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I'm sure I could get a decent price for you in the
>>>>>>>>>>> Mediterranean market...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But why would you want to?
>>>>>>>>>> I has a sad now :(
>>>>>>>>> It's what the Vikings did, mostly. In Ireland at least.
>>>>>>>>> Sometimes they took the wimmen to Iceland instead - to work in
>>>>>>>>> the service industy. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Freshen your drink, Govner?
>>>>>>> That too, I suppose - but mostly milk the cows and churn the
>>>>>>> butter kind of stuff. Also a considerable amount of Irish-origin
>>>>>>> DNA is still present in the Icelandic population.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh-huh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My colouring is more from the Scottish ancestors. Your might
>>>>>>>> get charged with fraud or beaten up for trying to pawn me off
>>>>>>>> as Irish. 
>>>>>>> I rather think it would make little difference, as long as you
>>>>>>> are good at thrashing grain and herding sheep and such...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see. By 'service industry' you meant slavery. I thought you
>>>>>> meant prostitution. 
>>>>>> Slop your hog, gov'ner?
>>>>> I don't know if they brought pigs along to Iceland.
>>>>> And they were definitely going out of fashion in the mediterranean
>>>>> market. 
>>>>>
>>>> Good. I don't like pork.
>>> As a thrall the menu choices may be somewhat limited in any case.
>>> How do you feel about gruel?
>>>
>> That's just oatmeal. I like oatmeal.
> Then I'm sure you will be quite content as a slave...
I dunno. I don't think I'd look good in a collar plus I'm bossy and 
opinionated.
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And so what if they think it's stolen? It's not like they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can prove anything. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They could if the obelisk is signed. A lot of obelisk have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inscriptions on them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But not signatures, surely.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think they do have the name of whoever carved the
>>>>>>>>>>> inscription - or at least who ordered it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Runic inscription almost always is mostly just that, in
>>>>>>>>>>> spite of how modest and self-effacing scandinavians are.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh you and your sarcasm!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You noticed... :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I usually notice and then ignore it.
>>>>>>>> {Oooo! I think that's the first time I noticed you using a
>>>>>>>> smiley} 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been known to use the odd ascii combinations at times. As
>>>>>>> long as they don't get autotranslated into graphic emoticons...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why's that?
>>>>> I don't like when what is displayed is not what I put. Also I'm
>>>>> not a fan of picture texting.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *crosses 'Get dick pics from BeH' off my bucket list*
>>> A prudent and wise decision. There are no BeH-pics - of any kind.
>>>
>> But there should be.
> There really shouldn't.
Of course there should be otherwise, it's like you never existed.

> 
>>>>>> This Usenet client is so old that it doesn't do graphics or
>>>>>> hyperlinks or even utf-8 encoding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (*' `* - two hairyballs having knife fight.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Danish very easy crossword, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>meant. >>> They have picture clues which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>solves >> as > horrible puns... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____  = I over ate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A cartoon of two young witched trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to > ride brooms with an older witch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>looking 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unamused. Solution: Kostskole. Kost =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broom or meal(s) (different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pronunciation) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skole = school Kostskole = boarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very punny.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would never get any right since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't  speak the language. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's really easy:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>>> v=gHlEOsM5jtA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *bookmark for later*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with that later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll probably forget or get distracted by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a squirrel or something... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Squirrels aren't distractions - they are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joy of nature. Unless you have a walnut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tree of course. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which I don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither do I, but still I have "hidden"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walnuts all over every year. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway the other day I had one rather small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squirrel being chased off the cherry tree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and all the way to the treeline - by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sparrows. Turns out sparrows don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squirrels are a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joy of nature. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They aren't, really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soemtimes they get in my garden and take 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bite out of every single ripe tomato.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quality control.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Death wish, more like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn't...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would if I didn't think another squirrel would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take its place. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can never have too many squirrels...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's at times like this, I wish I could send you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too. I suspect the gray squirrels would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered an invasive species, and not allowed for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import. It didn't go too well for the brits when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they did it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would send the red squirrels. They really are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little shits. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But pretty. And also cute the way they flitter about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the trees in between stealing produce.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must be some odd definition of the word 'cute' that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was previously unaware of.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are biased against the cute little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> critters... I wouldn't be chocked to learn that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't find a baby skunk cute either. Unharden your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heart, girl. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. Baby animals are cute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's video making the rounds of a baby elephant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chasing ducks. Very cute!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Squirrels - not so cute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baby squirrels! QED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *eye roll*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do you even do that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll show you when I go over to see your water feature.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That could be a while. Can't you just tell me now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too much typing. Anyways it's more of a visual thing.
>>>>>>> It would be - invo0lving the eyes as it does. But there have to
>>>>>>> be some technique involved. Or violence...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's 100% an underrated mad skill.
>>>>> Which you should teach me. Then I would have one mad skill.
>>>>
>>>> I thought you could Photoshop. That's a mad skill.
>>> I don't even have access to that program. But anyone can cut and
>>> paste stuff. Nothing mad about that.
>>>
>> I can cut and paste with scissors and glue.
> That will mess up your monitor something awful.
> 
I feel a blonde joke coming on...

>>>> I bet you could roll a joint. 
>>> I can make unsettling sounds with my (left) shoulder joint, if
>>> that's what you mean.
>>>
>> It isn't but noted.
> It's kind of a wet, clicking sound.
> 
Gross!

>>>>>>>>>>> I'm glad you finally relent in the face of my crushing
>>>>>>>>>>> logic. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't refer to twisting my words as crushing logic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, anyway I win.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure. If you say so.
>>>>>>> {point}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't point that at me, it has a nail in it.
>>>>> But it's a well trimmed nail...
>>>>>
>>>> It's still dangerous.
>>> Not in the least - the length is optimised for not getting stuff
>>> caught under it.
>>>
>> It's just plain rude then.
> How is having well trimmed nails rude? I think you mean 'practical'.
> 
It's rude to point.

>>>>>>>>>> But whatever floats your boat.
>>>>>>>>> Water displacement?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If that's what does it for you, who am I to judge?
>>>>>>> Not just me - that's how everyone's boat float. Physics!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stience!
>>>>> Or something that's spelled much like that...
>>>>>
>>>> It's from a cartoon called 'DisEnchantment' about a drunken
>>>> princess and her band of friends.
>>> I'm not familiar. I'm not part of the 'cartoon set'.
>>>
>> Now that's just sad.
> 
> It's probably a function of me not having access to any of the many,
> many streaming channels.
> 

There are lots of cartoons on regular tv here.