Re: Phil

Merlyne <[email protected]> Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:55:29 -0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups alt.acme.exploding.newsgroup
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]: 

> On 04.10.2023 16.13, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]: 
>> 
>>> On 26.09.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>
>>>>> On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote >>>> in >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy birthday to you, wherever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>> are... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> North Carolina?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't surprise me if he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one >>>> of >> those off-the-grid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mountain 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> men/prepper 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kooks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then hew may not see this...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Phil! (just in case)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH - Spring is here...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       <boing-boing> look at it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>go! >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dude! you need to spring into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not unless it stops raining half
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the >>>>> day. And the heavy wind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>abates. One 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could mistake this for autumn... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucky you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been hot and humid here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/weather/forecasts/a-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hot-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mugg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> y-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week-in-ontario-and-quebec-could-break- 
>>>>>>>>>> records
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have just had two days with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highest 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global tempetature ever (in recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history) they said on the news. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also had a story about a local ferry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who > had to raise their mooring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>points >>> because of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher water level or something. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't paying attention. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it an El Nino year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so, but that doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>immediately 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affect me personally, so... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to remember this weather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when >> it's -40C in February. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can set a reminder on your phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can but won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about you set a reminder on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone to remind me? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know when it's -40C in your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone should invent a website when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people could search for the weather in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other countries. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an idea... But don't you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people on the TV or radio tell you how the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather is supposed to be. That's how I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually find 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out. Also I don't think such a website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will tell when it's -40C a half year in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advance. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already told you when to look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regrettably I can't go into the future to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at the website, which makes setting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alarm now pure guesswork... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you miss the part when I said February?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Hence the need for time-travel as February
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a good six months in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that even a monkey could set a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder on their phone for February right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But setting a reminder now on your phone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> February with the correct weather forecast for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that day is something else entirely. Find me a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monkey that can do *that*. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to set a reminder on your phone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> February to check the temperature here so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can remind about how I was bitching about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat in the summer. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rationally it's bound to be colder next February
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that this summer, so the checking of temperature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't really be needed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that I'm not sure how to set a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder on my phone. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A smart guy like you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There have never been a need...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had to set one last week, oddly for February.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then _you_ can check the weather at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need for me to be involved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already know what the weather is here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the whole setting reminder/checking webpages is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moot? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point was ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nevermind!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fine. Just don't complain about the cold come February,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or I'll have to remind you how you complained about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat in July. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. It's a date!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually it's a month. So 29 dates, really. I'm only going
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to remind you once, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Great! Then I only have to ignore you once.
>>>>>>>>>>> At most. Maybe I'll forget to remind you.
>>>>>>>>>> Super!
>>>>>>>>>> I already feel like I just got away with something.
>>>>>>>>> If you start complaining about the cold I'll probably
>>>>>>>>> remember, though.... 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're putting a lot of pressure on me not to complain about
>>>>>>>> the weather.
>>>>>>>> It's what Canadians do best!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's because you have very little else to complain aboot, eh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We complain about foreigners who say we say 'aboot'.
>>>>> People still do that? Enough to complain about - even if you have
>>>>> nothing else to complain about except the weather?
>>>>>
>>>> There is no shortage of things to complain aboot.
>>> I know, right. There's weather ALL THE TIME!
>>>
>> You should do something about it.
> Nobody seems inclined to appoint me undisputed ruler anytime soon.

I think you need to just declare it yourself.

> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I put it on my calendar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a calendar too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ugh!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RTFM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. (Actually I did but only to stop all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'automatic' functionality attempting to breach my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> privacy.) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remind me, why did you get a cellphone?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two factor authentication! The bank made it so I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't do transactions over a certain amount without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the code they sent via SMS. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need 2 step authentication to even sign into my bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account (and a whole bunch of other accounts). Which I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't mind. They have options for people without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cellphones. They can call a number and an automated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robo-voice says the code OR the code is sent to the email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have on file. Stuff like that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That must be nice, having options like that. Even the damn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supermarket chains have 'apps' now, with special discounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one only gets if one pays through the app. I don't buy any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of those items... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most store have rewards apps now. The grocery stores track
>>>>>>>>>>>> our purchases and then give coupons based on the buying
>>>>>>>>>>>> history (I assume). The stupid thing is they send coupons
>>>>>>>>>>>> every week for items that need to be purchased once a month
>>>>>>>>>>>> or less frequently OR the coupon is for bonus points for
>>>>>>>>>>>> every $10 spent on an item that costs $9.99. Like I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> buying 2 10kg drums of mayonnaise. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> First of all I'm appalled that you even consider buying one
>>>>>>>>>>> 10kg drum of mayonnaise. How can anyone use that much before
>>>>>>>>>>> it goes rancid. The apps our stores have have actual reduced
>>>>>>>>>>> prices for normal in-the-store stuff that non-app users can
>>>>>>>>>>> also buy - but at the not-reduced price. I don't know how
>>>>>>>>>>> this than be legal... 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's like a club, innit?
>>>>>>>>>> So you get the app and then you save too.
>>>>>>>>> I don't care what they call it - it's still discrimination
>>>>>>>>> based on concern for one's privacy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's loyalty program for loyal customers. You have to subscribe
>>>>>>>> to get the discounts.
>>>>>>> It's actually slightly dodgy according to danish trade law, and
>>>>>>> they have to wriggle things a bit to not get harsh words from
>>>>>>> the consumer ombudsmand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I guess you don't want to save money.
>>>>> I want everybody to be able to save money - regardless of whether
>>>>> they have a smrt-phone and choose to install the shops stupid app.
>>>>
>>>> Life doesn't work that way.
>>> Well it should. And when I'm the undisputed ruler...
>> Oh! Something else to hope for!
> 
> I'm still waiting for the appointment to be official...

Why wait? Make it happen!

> 
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't buy that much mayonnaise. It was an exaggeration for
>>>>>>>>>> illustrative purposes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Still appalled that 10kg drums of mayonnaise is a thing that
>>>>>>>>> is available to private households.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What if it was a 10kg drum of coffee?
>>>>>>> That would be fine, especially if it involved a substantial
>>>>>>> rebate. Using 10kg of coffee before it goes bad is easy enough.
>>>>>>> Also coffee doesn't go rancid the same way mayonnaise does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would never use either before they went to the dark side.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can keep coffee in the freezer - keeps it fresh an potent...
>>>>>
>>>> *gasp*
>>>> I used to keep coffee in the freezer until my hippie uncle started 
>>>> roasting his own. Apparently, you're never supposed to keep it in
>>>> the freezer but in an air-tight container at room temperature.
>>> I've kept coffee in the freezer for years with no apparent ill
>>> effect. I suspect the airtightness of the container is the important
>>> bit. And coffee comes mostly vacuum packed around here. (Pre-roasted
>>> too.) 
>>>
>> 
>> The coffee comes vacuum packed from the store here.
>> Coffee roasting will be a valuable skill once the world descends into
>> chaos (zombie apocalyse or whatever). 
> 
> All things considered I think I would rather not be awake for that.
No coffee for you!
> (Not that zombies are real or anything)
{They could be. Maybe it's a side-effect of the COVID vaccine}
> (Also isn't it bad enough already - what more do you want.)
> 
{The pendulum always swings back the other way}