Re: Phil

BeH <[email protected]> Sat, 21 Oct 2023 23:40:42 +0200
Newsgroups alt.acme.exploding.newsgroup
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 18.10.2023 13.55, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]: 
> 
>> On 04.10.2023 16.13, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>
>>>> On 26.09.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>> in >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy birthday to you, wherever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>> are... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> North Carolina?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't surprise me if he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>> of >> those off-the-grid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mountain 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> men/prepper 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kooks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then hew may not see this...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Phil! (just in case)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH - Spring is here...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       <boing-boing> look at it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go! >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dude! you need to spring into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not unless it stops raining half
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>> day. And the heavy wind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abates. One 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could mistake this for autumn... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucky you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been hot and humid here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/weather/forecasts/a-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hot-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mugg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> y-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week-in-ontario-and-quebec-could-break- 
>>>>>>>>>>> records
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have just had two days with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highest 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global tempetature ever (in recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history) they said on the news. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also had a story about a local ferry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who > had to raise their mooring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points >>> because of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher water level or something. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't paying attention. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it an El Nino year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so, but that doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affect me personally, so... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to remember this weather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >> it's -40C in February. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can set a reminder on your phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can but won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about you set a reminder on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone to remind me? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know when it's -40C in your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone should invent a website when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people could search for the weather in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other countries. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an idea... But don't you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people on the TV or radio tell you how the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather is supposed to be. That's how I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually find 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out. Also I don't think such a website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will tell when it's -40C a half year in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advance. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already told you when to look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regrettably I can't go into the future to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at the website, which makes setting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alarm now pure guesswork... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you miss the part when I said February?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Hence the need for time-travel as February
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a good six months in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that even a monkey could set a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder on their phone for February right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But setting a reminder now on your phone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> February with the correct weather forecast for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that day is something else entirely. Find me a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monkey that can do *that*. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to set a reminder on your phone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> February to check the temperature here so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can remind about how I was bitching about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat in the summer. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rationally it's bound to be colder next February
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that this summer, so the checking of temperature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't really be needed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that I'm not sure how to set a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder on my phone. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A smart guy like you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There have never been a need...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had to set one last week, oddly for February.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then _you_ can check the weather at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need for me to be involved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already know what the weather is here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the whole setting reminder/checking webpages is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moot? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point was ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nevermind!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fine. Just don't complain about the cold come February,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or I'll have to remind you how you complained about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat in July. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. It's a date!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually it's a month. So 29 dates, really. I'm only going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to remind you once, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great! Then I only have to ignore you once.
>>>>>>>>>>>> At most. Maybe I'll forget to remind you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Super!
>>>>>>>>>>> I already feel like I just got away with something.
>>>>>>>>>> If you start complaining about the cold I'll probably
>>>>>>>>>> remember, though.... 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're putting a lot of pressure on me not to complain about
>>>>>>>>> the weather.
>>>>>>>>> It's what Canadians do best!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's because you have very little else to complain aboot, eh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We complain about foreigners who say we say 'aboot'.
>>>>>> People still do that? Enough to complain about - even if you have
>>>>>> nothing else to complain about except the weather?
>>>>>>
>>>>> There is no shortage of things to complain aboot.
>>>> I know, right. There's weather ALL THE TIME!
>>>>
>>> You should do something about it.
>> Nobody seems inclined to appoint me undisputed ruler anytime soon.
> 
> I think you need to just declare it yourself.
Modesty prevents...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I put it on my calendar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a calendar too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ugh!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RTFM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. (Actually I did but only to stop all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'automatic' functionality attempting to breach my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> privacy.) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remind me, why did you get a cellphone?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two factor authentication! The bank made it so I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't do transactions over a certain amount without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the code they sent via SMS. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need 2 step authentication to even sign into my bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account (and a whole bunch of other accounts). Which I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't mind. They have options for people without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cellphones. They can call a number and an automated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robo-voice says the code OR the code is sent to the email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have on file. Stuff like that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That must be nice, having options like that. Even the damn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supermarket chains have 'apps' now, with special discounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one only gets if one pays through the app. I don't buy any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of those items... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most store have rewards apps now. The grocery stores track
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our purchases and then give coupons based on the buying
>>>>>>>>>>>>> history (I assume). The stupid thing is they send coupons
>>>>>>>>>>>>> every week for items that need to be purchased once a month
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or less frequently OR the coupon is for bonus points for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> every $10 spent on an item that costs $9.99. Like I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buying 2 10kg drums of mayonnaise. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all I'm appalled that you even consider buying one
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10kg drum of mayonnaise. How can anyone use that much before
>>>>>>>>>>>> it goes rancid. The apps our stores have have actual reduced
>>>>>>>>>>>> prices for normal in-the-store stuff that non-app users can
>>>>>>>>>>>> also buy - but at the not-reduced price. I don't know how
>>>>>>>>>>>> this than be legal... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's like a club, innit?
>>>>>>>>>>> So you get the app and then you save too.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't care what they call it - it's still discrimination
>>>>>>>>>> based on concern for one's privacy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's loyalty program for loyal customers. You have to subscribe
>>>>>>>>> to get the discounts.
>>>>>>>> It's actually slightly dodgy according to danish trade law, and
>>>>>>>> they have to wriggle things a bit to not get harsh words from
>>>>>>>> the consumer ombudsmand.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I guess you don't want to save money.
>>>>>> I want everybody to be able to save money - regardless of whether
>>>>>> they have a smrt-phone and choose to install the shops stupid app.
>>>>>
>>>>> Life doesn't work that way.
>>>> Well it should. And when I'm the undisputed ruler...
>>> Oh! Something else to hope for!
>>
>> I'm still waiting for the appointment to be official...
> 
> Why wait? Make it happen!
It's more official if someone else does the appointing. Probably my
edicts will carry more weight too.

>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't buy that much mayonnaise. It was an exaggeration for
>>>>>>>>>>> illustrative purposes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still appalled that 10kg drums of mayonnaise is a thing that
>>>>>>>>>> is available to private households.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What if it was a 10kg drum of coffee?
>>>>>>>> That would be fine, especially if it involved a substantial
>>>>>>>> rebate. Using 10kg of coffee before it goes bad is easy enough.
>>>>>>>> Also coffee doesn't go rancid the same way mayonnaise does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would never use either before they went to the dark side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can keep coffee in the freezer - keeps it fresh an potent...
>>>>>>
>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>> I used to keep coffee in the freezer until my hippie uncle started 
>>>>> roasting his own. Apparently, you're never supposed to keep it in
>>>>> the freezer but in an air-tight container at room temperature.
>>>> I've kept coffee in the freezer for years with no apparent ill
>>>> effect. I suspect the airtightness of the container is the important
>>>> bit. And coffee comes mostly vacuum packed around here. (Pre-roasted
>>>> too.) 
>>>>
>>>
>>> The coffee comes vacuum packed from the store here.
>>> Coffee roasting will be a valuable skill once the world descends into
>>> chaos (zombie apocalyse or whatever). 
>>
>> All things considered I think I would rather not be awake for that.
> No coffee for you!
Even coffee won't keep you awake if you are dead by zombie.

>> (Not that zombies are real or anything)
> {They could be. Maybe it's a side-effect of the COVID vaccine}
Like autism and 5G mind control...? I think not.

>> (Also isn't it bad enough already - what more do you want.)
>>
> {The pendulum always swings back the other way}
{Observe the pendulum... follow the movement of the pendulum...
concentrate on the pendulum...}

-- 
BeH

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