Re: Crossed the threshhold
Merlyne <[email protected]> Wed, 25 Oct 2023 14:26:34 -0000 (UTC)
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BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]: > On 18.10.2023 13.55, Merlyne wrote: >> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >> news:[email protected]: >> >>> On 04.10.2023 16.13, Merlyne wrote: >>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>> news:[email protected]: >>>> >>>>> On 26.09.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>> news:[email protected]: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17.09.2023 19.50, Merlyne wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [*munch* Mmmm crunchy usenet post] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. Never mind. So obelisks. The egyptians >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made a lot of those back in the day. And then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the English (and the french) stole some of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fascinating. Also very phallic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stealing obelisks? That's more of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imperialistic thing, I would say. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obelisk envy. Definitely a guy thing ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't know... I don't feel deprived. Also I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no good place to put an obelisk. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It definitely needs to go out by the road where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passersby can admire and/or steal it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could put it where my tower used to be, I suppose. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ('My tower' being an old power distribution hut they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took down a couple of years ago.) Also we don't get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of englishers (or frenchers) around here so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unlikely anyone will steal an obelisk. A stele on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hand... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who would steal a stele over an obelisk? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the englishers (and the frenchers) have done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some stele stealing as well over time - when there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were no obelisks around. Ultimately it's going to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stelistic choice, innit? Also an obelisk is pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unhandy to lug about unobtrusively. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They would put it lying down in the back of wagon, no? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they happen to have a wagon. Many of the foreign >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types coming by here are biking... I can't imagine it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be easy to take away a stele on a bike without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being noticed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess it depends on how big it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Size matters. >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are practical limits to how big a bike can be... not >>>>>>>>>>>>> least if it is to be powered the proper way: with people >>>>>>>>>>>>> muscles. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you meant the size of the stele. >>>>>>>>>>> I did, but the idea of a (cargo-)bike big enough to carry a >>>>>>>>>>> stele - or an obelisk - appealed to me. It would probably >>>>>>>>>>> have to be made of steel... for sturdyness. Quite a job to >>>>>>>>>>> get something like that up the hills. Especially laden with >>>>>>>>>>> a stele. >>>>>>>>>> What is the minimum stele size? Maybe we should focus on >>>>>>>>>> stealing small steles. >>>>>>>>> I imagine there is a practical minimal size for steles - a >>>>>>>>> tiny rock isn't going to be very impressive, and also it would >>>>>>>>> likely be difficult to still make out the inscriptions for old >>>>>>>>> steles. Also stumpy stolen steles aren't as attractive in a >>>>>>>>> tourist-trap sense as the bigger ones. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I dunno. >>>>>>>> In 2020, people were really into those rocks that kids were >>>>>>>> painting and leaving in parks. Maybe we could colourize a small >>>>>>>> one to make it more attractive? >>>>>>> In 2020 people were really into going to parks in general. >>>>>>> Also painting a stele would compromise the sense of historical >>>>>>> impact and thus the monetary benefit. See how people reacted >>>>>>> when museums started displaying greek and roman sculpture with >>>>>>> the original paint scheme. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am unfamiliar with that, not being part of the 'museum' set. >>>>> I have been to a museum or two in my time. Not recently - they are >>>>> all far away, except the local tractor-museum. But anyway: >>>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/see-the-vibrant-long- >>>> overlook >>>>> ed-colors-of-classical-sculptures-180980321/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> Cool! I like the gold torso. >>>> See. Colour enhances them. >>> >>> The point was that 'important cultural people' for years have lauded >>> the pure aesthetics of the unadorned marble of neoclassicism - >>> supposedly emulating the ancient greek and roman art - and _then_ >>> they found out it was supposed to be painted in bright colours. >>> >> It makes them pretty! > But think of the cognitive dissonance. The trauma... Human figures > being skin-coloured. With brown hair and blue eyes. Like people! > Are you saying that beings without brown hair and blue eyes aren't people? Now I feel traumatized. >>>>>> I am, however, familiar with how well received Ted Turner was >>>>>> when he colourized old movies. >>>>> Everybody clapped and cheered? >>>>> >>>> Exactly! >>>> >>>>>> He was trying to bring them to life and make them real. >>>>>> Same thing applies to the steles. >>>>> I'm pretty sure there are rules against smearing paint on genuine >>>>> archaeoligical artifacts. >>>>> >>>> No one will know if it's genuine or not. >>> The people to whom it belonged before it was stolen will know. And >>> possibly some museum nerds too. >>> >> Museum nerds don't go out and I'm not scared of some long-dead >> viking. > I've been watching old Time Team episodes lately, and museum nerds > absolutely go out sometimes. Also the steles don't belong to vikings - > who are all long dead after all - they belong to museums and > foundations and such. > (Bjorn again vikings?) I bet some private collectors have steles. Let's take those. >>>> Anyways, I didn't have you pegged as a rule follower. >>> I'm a firm adherent to the principle of not getting caught breaking >>> rules. >>> >> Noted.Except for grammar rules. > There are grammar rules? > Of course. There are rules for everything. You must wear pants in public. And try to not split infinitives. >>>>>>>>>> Make sure you bring a tarp so that the stolen stele is >>>>>>>>>> stealth. >>>>>>>>> I think that is stipulated in the stele-stealing subject... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It wasn't. >>>>>>> It is my understanding that stealthily stealing large objects >>>>>>> involves covering it up en route. Similar to using carpets for >>>>>>> moving bodies. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought the objective was to take the thing and get away as >>>>>> fast as possible. >>>>>> I can see the headline: 'The theives were captured as they stood >>>>>> there fastening the tarp to the get-away bike' >>>>> If you plan to be apprehended while still on the site a tarp >>>>> probably isn't going to make any difference one way or the other. >>>>> The first principle of stele-stealing is to do it without being >>>>> seen. >>>>> >>>> I get that. I didn't plan on getting caught. It was a side-effect >>>> of you farting around with the bike. >>> If the bike is moving while you apply the tarp you are doing it >>> wrong. >> >> Obviously trying to affix a tarp on a moving bike in almost >> impossible and ill-advised. > Exactly. > >>> Also nobody is likely to suspect someone on a bike, which is why the >>> tarp is important to keep the stele out of sight. >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to put up a signage on a busy road. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Come and see the obelisk 2 km ---> " >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be nervous someone might accuse me of having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen the obelisk. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That seems like a Viking kinda thing to do... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah... If it ain't gold or silver (or wimmen) it ain't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth the space. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pity the fool who steals me. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I'm sure I could get a decent price for you in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mediterranean market... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But why would you want to? >>>>>>>>>>>> I has a sad now :( >>>>>>>>>>> It's what the Vikings did, mostly. In Ireland at least. >>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes they took the wimmen to Iceland instead - to work >>>>>>>>>>> in the service industy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Freshen your drink, Govner? >>>>>>>>> That too, I suppose - but mostly milk the cows and churn the >>>>>>>>> butter kind of stuff. Also a considerable amount of >>>>>>>>> Irish-origin DNA is still present in the Icelandic population. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Uh-huh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My colouring is more from the Scottish ancestors. Your might >>>>>>>>>> get charged with fraud or beaten up for trying to pawn me off >>>>>>>>>> as Irish. >>>>>>>>> I rather think it would make little difference, as long as you >>>>>>>>> are good at thrashing grain and herding sheep and such... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I see. By 'service industry' you meant slavery. I thought you >>>>>>>> meant prostitution. >>>>>>>> Slop your hog, gov'ner? >>>>>>> I don't know if they brought pigs along to Iceland. >>>>>>> And they were definitely going out of fashion in the >>>>>>> mediterranean market. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Good. I don't like pork. >>>>> As a thrall the menu choices may be somewhat limited in any case. >>>>> How do you feel about gruel? >>>>> >>>> That's just oatmeal. I like oatmeal. >>> Then I'm sure you will be quite content as a slave... >> I dunno. I don't think I'd look good in a collar plus I'm bossy and >> opinionated. > I'm sure any competent slave owner will have remedies to correct these > shortcomings. > Like what? Keeping in mind I was spanked as a child. (And remarkably well-behaved as an adult) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And so what if they think it's stolen? It's not like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can prove anything. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They could if the obelisk is signed. A lot of obelisk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have inscriptions on them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But not signatures, surely. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they do have the name of whoever carved the >>>>>>>>>>>>> inscription - or at least who ordered it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Runic inscription almost always is mostly just that, in >>>>>>>>>>>>> spite of how modest and self-effacing scandinavians are. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh you and your sarcasm! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You noticed... :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I usually notice and then ignore it. >>>>>>>>>> {Oooo! I think that's the first time I noticed you using a >>>>>>>>>> smiley} >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have been known to use the odd ascii combinations at times. >>>>>>>>> As long as they don't get autotranslated into graphic >>>>>>>>> emoticons... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why's that? >>>>>>> I don't like when what is displayed is not what I put. Also I'm >>>>>>> not a fan of picture texting. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *crosses 'Get dick pics from BeH' off my bucket list* >>>>> A prudent and wise decision. There are no BeH-pics - of any kind. >>>>> >>>> But there should be. >>> There really shouldn't. >> Of course there should be otherwise, it's like you never existed. > There is a considerable production of written material right here on > usenet - forever enshrined on google. Also I would think at least some > of the programming I've done would still be active. Also also the Tax > department knows who I am. > There is no connection for the general public between BeH on usenet, the programmer and your secret identity or your tax account. >>>>>>>> This Usenet client is so old that it doesn't do graphics or >>>>>>>> hyperlinks or even utf-8 encoding. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (*' `* - two hairyballs having knife fight.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Danish very easy crossword, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant. >>> They have picture clues >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>which >> solves >> as > horrible puns... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____ = I over ate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A cartoon of two young witched >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trying >> to > ride brooms with an older >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>witch >> looking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unamused. Solution: Kostskole. Kost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> broom or meal(s) (different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pronunciation) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skole = school Kostskole = boarding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very punny. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would never get any right since I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't speak the language. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's really easy: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch? >>>>>> v=gHlEOsM5jtA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *bookmark for later* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with that later. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll probably forget or get distracted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by a squirrel or something... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Squirrels aren't distractions - they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a joy of nature. Unless you have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walnut tree of course. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which I don't. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither do I, but still I have "hidden" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walnuts all over every year. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway the other day I had one rather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small squirrel being chased off the cherry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tree and all the way to the treeline - by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sparrows. Turns out sparrows don't think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squirrels are a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joy of nature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They aren't, really. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soemtimes they get in my garden and take 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bite out of every single ripe tomato. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quality control. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Death wish, more like. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn't... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would if I didn't think another squirrel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would take its place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can never have too many squirrels... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's at times like this, I wish I could send you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too. I suspect the gray squirrels would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered an invasive species, and not allowed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for import. It didn't go too well for the brits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when they did it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would send the red squirrels. They really are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little shits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But pretty. And also cute the way they flitter about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the trees in between stealing produce. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must be some odd definition of the word 'cute' that I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was previously unaware of. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are biased against the cute little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> critters... I wouldn't be chocked to learn that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't find a baby skunk cute either. Unharden your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heart, girl. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. Baby animals are cute. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's video making the rounds of a baby elephant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chasing ducks. Very cute! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Squirrels - not so cute. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baby squirrels! QED >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *eye roll* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you even do that? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll show you when I go over to see your water feature. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That could be a while. Can't you just tell me now? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Too much typing. Anyways it's more of a visual thing. >>>>>>>>> It would be - invo0lving the eyes as it does. But there have >>>>>>>>> to be some technique involved. Or violence... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's 100% an underrated mad skill. >>>>>>> Which you should teach me. Then I would have one mad skill. >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought you could Photoshop. That's a mad skill. >>>>> I don't even have access to that program. But anyone can cut and >>>>> paste stuff. Nothing mad about that. >>>>> >>>> I can cut and paste with scissors and glue. >>> That will mess up your monitor something awful. >>> >> I feel a blonde joke coming on... > Go on then...? > *deep inhale* How do you know when a blonde has been using your computer? There is white-out on the screen. How do you know that another blonde has been using the computer? Someone has written on the white-out. >>>>>> I bet you could roll a joint. >>>>> I can make unsettling sounds with my (left) shoulder joint, if >>>>> that's what you mean. >>>>> >>>> It isn't but noted. >>> It's kind of a wet, clicking sound. >>> >> Gross! > Truly. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm glad you finally relent in the face of my crushing >>>>>>>>>>>>> logic. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't refer to twisting my words as crushing logic. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, anyway I win. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sure. If you say so. >>>>>>>>> {point} >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't point that at me, it has a nail in it. >>>>>>> But it's a well trimmed nail... >>>>>>> >>>>>> It's still dangerous. >>>>> Not in the least - the length is optimised for not getting stuff >>>>> caught under it. >>>>> >>>> It's just plain rude then. >>> How is having well trimmed nails rude? I think you mean 'practical'. >>> >> It's rude to point. > So the second finger has become utterly useless because of societal > norms? I resent that. > The second finger isn't for pointing. Wait! Are you giving me the finger? >>>>>>>>>>>> But whatever floats your boat. >>>>>>>>>>> Water displacement? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If that's what does it for you, who am I to judge? >>>>>>>>> Not just me - that's how everyone's boat float. Physics! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stience! >>>>>>> Or something that's spelled much like that... >>>>>>> >>>>>> It's from a cartoon called 'DisEnchantment' about a drunken >>>>>> princess and her band of friends. >>>>> I'm not familiar. I'm not part of the 'cartoon set'. >>>>> >>>> Now that's just sad. >>> >>> It's probably a function of me not having access to any of the many, >>> many streaming channels. >>> >> >> There are lots of cartoons on regular tv here. > > It's mostly just Disney(tm) here, with a sprinkling of Peppa Pig and > possibly SpongeBob. I don't watch much childrens tv. > The Simpsons are on Disney Plus.