Re: Sick - so very sick

On 29.11.2023 15.41, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]: 
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>> On 22.11.2023 14.33, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>
>>>> On 08.11.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25.10.2023 16.26, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Redacted]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Oops!]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Redacted]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I wonder what it said. Must have been important
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and sensitive.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*shrug*]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Snipporific extraction]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [And the winner is ......*drum roll*]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*Attempts to look unconcerned*]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You look worried or gassy, not sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's my unconcerned look.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Now I look concerned]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't worry, If I win I win, if not I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throw a fit] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll wait out in the limo]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [And miss my great moment? I see how it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is...] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Do you? I hope you see I am anti-whining]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yeah - waiting in the limo is more moping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than whining. Also not very supportive.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'm not moping. I'm happy to not hear the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whining. Also, there is a complementary bar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here and the driver is cute] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I won't be whining when I win. I'll be giving a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humorous yet moving acceptance speech, thanking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the people helping to get me this far.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You didn't seem so sure about winning a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts ago. So your win is due to my blathering on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not snipping. You wouldn't be here if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weren't for me.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Which make it all the incredible that you would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather sit in a car than the audience, where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can demonstrate your modesty to the cameras when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profusely and excessively thank you for your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribution.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Fine! There better not be any whining. I spent a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fortune on this dress and getting my hair done.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I can guarantee there will be no whining from me if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I win] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There better not be whining if you don't. I'll give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you something to whine about]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Ohhh.. I hope it's one of those nice Riojas. Or maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sturdy Chianti] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How about some wine with the 'h'?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I don't do [non-prescription] drugs. I don't do much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wine any more for that matter.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Me either. Whiner]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I care about my kidney. That doesn't make me a whiner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Namecaller.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Just because I called you a whiner doesn't make me a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> namecaller. Oh wait.]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [So there!]
>>>>>>>>>>> [mouthes the word 'whiner']
>>>>>>>>>> [pointedly refuse to notice]
>>>>>>>>> [I know you noticed]
>>>>>>>> [Noticed what?]
>>>>>>> [Exactly]
>>>>>> [I believe that's my line]
>>>>> [You snooze, you lose]
>>>> [That's not how things work. *gesticulates wildly* My lines - your
>>>> lines. Completely different.]
>>> [Line ownership is whoever says it]
>> [Theatrical directors around the world screams and pulls at their
>> hair] 
> [The directors don't own the lines]
[They are going to draw some if you keep switching using ones that
aren't for you.]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elsewhere 'american style'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may >>>>>> mean >>>>> filtered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coffee... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW >>>>>> Coffee! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their coffee is so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smooth. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But still just coffee - by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>> other >>>>> name. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All coffee is not equal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You've apparently never had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> really >>>> good  cup of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coffee. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All my coffee is good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soo you say.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is true. Because it has coffee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>> it. >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not all coffee is good. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >> drinking coffee that has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>> sitting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for  hours in a thermos makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> nauseous. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coffee doesn't sit for hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around >>>>> here. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you drink a pot in a short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> span >> of >>>> time? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A couple of hours, usually.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrespective 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the fact that I don't have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coffee > maker ATM, I usually put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> in >> a couple 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of thermos mugs. The inevitable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loss >>>> of > heat is preferable to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leaving 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> coffee > on the hotplate for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>> length of time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My god! How are you making coffee?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I boil water in a kettle and pour in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over ground coffee contained in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liquid-permeable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper bag - just like gawd intended.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like how I make tea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean you don't do the whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chinese/japanese traditional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tea-making 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what that is. My people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come  from the British Isles. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a long and strict ritual involving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boiling water, tea-pots, cups and bamboo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whiskers.. and of course tea leaves. So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just splash some milk and hot water
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over a teabag, then? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I buy loose leaf tea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My ritual is I put some in tea strainer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and wait for the kettle to boil. While
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is happening, sometimes I graze on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff on the counter or do some squats.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it is black tea then I pour the water
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a mug with the tea and leave it steep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a few 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I add some milk. If it some other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of tea: green, white, rooibos 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then I remove the strainer after it has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steeped. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the orientals put the leaves in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the teapot and strain it when serving. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think they do squats, what with them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting on the floor when making the. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I make a whole pot, it gets strained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that way. I rarely make a whole pot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depends on the size of the pot, though. Eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *eye roll*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure,sure, size matters....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of those japanese teapots only holds two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cups of tea. Small cups too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So they won't be bragging about their teapots
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes small is beautiful... Size isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything, you know. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what little people say.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not everyone from Asia is small...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did I say they were?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A) You implied that people who find their tiny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teapots aesthetically pleasing are little.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B) The tiny teapots are from Asia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion: Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see that at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's logic...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenuous at best.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenuous is the best logic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No it isn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's one step above gossip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's good enough for the government...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They mostly make up issues to deflect away from important
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you implying that tiny teapot aesthetics isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> important? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I imply nothing!
>>>>>>>>>>> You're just trying to deflect away from your faulty logic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing faulty with my logic. Besides it's you who
>>>>>>>>>> were trying to deflect by mentioning how tiny people in asia
>>>>>>>>>> are. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It was you who said that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You literally called them "little people".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I said 'little people' in general.
>>>>>>> I did not implicitly or otherwise reference people from Asia.
>>>>>>> You interpolated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The context was people in asia being fond of small teapots (and
>>>>>> tea). I inferred.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Poorly.
>>>> Convincingly, you mean. If you keep belittling my logic I shall
>>>> interpol *you*, just you wait!
>>>
>>> Then I will be put on the no-fly list so you'll be left to steal
>>> steel steles on your own.
>> Stone steles. I have no interest in stealing steel steles. Maybe it's
>> for the best. At least it will negate the risk of verbal communication
>> (apart from the occational whispered swear word). I should probably
>> oil the chain on my cargo bike though. For maximum stone stele
>> stealing stealth...
>>
> Yes. Any squeaks could alert someone or an attack dog.
Exactly. And stele owners are notorious for having vicious attack dogs.



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BeH

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