Re: There's no such thing as being transphobic, it's because there's no such thing as a trans person

Eileen Dover <[email protected]> Mon, 8 May 2023 10:09:51 +0200 (CEST)
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pyotr filipivich <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Duque Mantee wrote
> 
>> "transgenders" are just gay "it" attempting to force acceptance of
>> their mental illness and perversions. 

Many of us have been pushed into endless defenses against accusations of 
“transphobia.” I understand the inclination to push back: it’s a label 
that has kept many of us out of public discourse, has seen many fired, 
ostracized, vilified, and threatened in the scariest of ways.

JK Rowling is a prime example, labelled “transphobic” by liberal media and 
the woke masses, and subjected to endless death and rape threats on 
account of her defenses of women’s existence and need for (certain) sex-
segregated spaces.

<https://twitter.com/Dataracer117/status/1272737061703790592>

Here are the death threats and harassment JK Rowling has been recieving. 
Including abuse from verified accounts.

Dozens of hit pieces written about "the backlash to her transphobia." Not 
one mentioned the threats she's receiving from these radical activists.

I have had a similar experience, (with lesser intensity and in lesser 
numbers, of course — I am much lesser known than Rowling), beginning back 
in 2017, after I testified against Bill C-16, Canada’s gender identity 
legislation. It became scary for me to go out in public, and I began 
avoiding certain neighbourhoods and establishments in Vancouver, and 
generally felt on edge if out alone. As I continued to speak out publicly, 
images of my face were plastered around my hometown, as if I weren’t 
already recognizable enough, labelling me a “transphobe.”

Every event I spoke at in Vancouver (as well as in other places across 
North America) was subject to death threats, leading either to 
cancellations or a massive police presence and private security team. 
Venue staff were afraid, volunteers were afraid, I was afraid, those who 
attended my events were afraid. Even the police seemed afraid, at times.

Being labelled a transphobe is scary. It signals to progressives not just 
that you are bad, but that you are dangerous: on par with Nazis and white 
supremacists who wish to eradicate certain members of the population. In 
many cases, these labels are exagerrated, unwarranted, or simply lies, but 
the point remains that the term “transphobe” tells those who don’t know 
any better that an individual is hateful to the point they wish to harm or 
destroy others.

Therefore, it makes sense to push back — to say, “No, I’m not a 
transphobe, I simply believe women’s rights need protection;” “No, I’m not 
a transphobe, I simply believe individuals cannot change sex.” “I don’t 
hate trans people, I just want to ensure vulnerable women and girls are 
not predated on by bad actors.”

The problem is that, within these pushbacks, there is accomodation of the 
idea that a transphobe is a thing that exists in the first place.

It doesn’t.

There are a couple of reasons for this:

1) There is no such thing as a trans person.

Bear with me on this one. I realize there are people who identify as 
transgender and that there are people who attempt to “transition” to 
appear more like the opposite sex. But there is not actually a person who 
is neither male nor female. Everyone is either male or female. Even people 
with intersex conditions are generally clearly male or female, but just 
with some variation of intersex condition. But seeing as you cannot either 
change sex or exist somewhere in the middle — neither male nor female but 
something else — there is no such thing as being “transgender.”

A diagnosis of “gender dysphoria” doesn’t cut it either. You are still 
just a male or female who wishes they were another sex, has body 
dysmorphia, doesn’t relate to the gender stereotypes attached to your sex, 
or has some other mental illness that has led you to believe you are the 
“wrong sex,” have the “wrong body,” or have a brain that somehow doesn’t 
“match” your body.

As an adult, you have the right to get cosmetic surgeries and wear the 
clothes you prefer (perhaps not always in professional settings, but in 
your home and around town, provided you aren’t engaging in indecent 
exposure). You can change your name and adopt mannerisms stereotypically 
associated with the opposite sex. But you cannot actually change sex, you 
cannot force anyone else to believe you are the opposite sex, and you 
cannot become some non-sex somewhere in the middle.

You are not trans — you are a human being with feelings, desires, a 
personality, and maybe a mental illness.

2) “Transphobia” has most-commonly been associated with the label “TERF,” 
meaning “trans-exclusionary radical feminist.” Ironically, because right 
wing men believe they are the first to discover that men are claiming to 
be women and taking over women’s sports or prancing around in women’s 
change rooms with their dicks out, the “TERF” label exists because radical 
feminists were the first to catch on to the nonsense of transgenderism and 
call it out. The “exclusionary” part is not in fact in reference to “trans 
people” being excluded from anything, but rather in reference to the fact 
that women don’t want men in their sex-segrated spaces (washrooms, 
transition houses, shelters, change rooms, etc.). If anything, the women 
labelled “TERFs” are manphobic. They don’t care if women who don’t conform 
to gender stereotypes are in women’s changerooms or competing with other 
females in sport.

Indeed, feminists have always fought for women to be freed from limiting 
gender stereotypes.

The concern has always been about men claiming to be women, and now about 
kids being given puberty blockers, hormones, and surgeries that alter 
their bodies for life and render them sterile, on account of a so-called 
“trans identity.”

There are people who feel uncomfortable seeing men wearing their cross-
dressing fetishes out in public, which in my opinion is fair. There are 
men who are angered by other men pretending they are women in order to 
attempt to sleep with them, which also seems reasonable (I mean, don’t lie 
about having a dick if you are trying to have sex with heterosexual men…). 
There are people who feel weirded out when they encounter someone who 
seems ambiguous or confusing, in terms of their sex (this also seems 
reasonable, provided the response to these people isn’t abusive). There 
are people who are homophobic. There are people who understand biological 
reality and don’t wish to play along with the nonsense idea that a man can 
be a woman if he says so. There are people who think transing kids is 
wrong, which is it. There are people who think male inmates should be kept 
out of women’s prisons, which of course they should be. And so on and so 
forth.

None of these people are “transphobic.”

~~~

The easiest way to combat transgender ideology is to simply not go along 
with it. Don’t play along with the notion that one must use “preferred 
pronouns.” (Sexed pronouns are not a matter of preference, they are not an 
opinion or a judgement, they are a matter of grammar.) Don’t play along 
with the idea that it is possible to be “born in the wrong body.” (You are 
born with a sexed body, and unfortunately you don’t get a say in that.) 
Don’t play along with the idea that it is somehow special or original to 
not relate to every single stereotype associated with "masculinity” or 
“femininity.” (No one does. We are have our own personalities and 
preferences, and while femininity is more commonly associated with females 
and masculinity with males, how we feel about those sterotypes does not 
dictate our sex. If it did, we would be changing sex all the time and we 
would all be “trans.”)

“Trans” is not a real, valid category with a coherent definition, which 
means that “transphobia” is also not a real, valid, or coherent concept. I 
realize some make the argument that being “polite” about such things is a 
better means to bring people over to “our side” or open people up to 
listening to our concerns, but I actually think it just creates an 
incredibly confusing conversation. It also opens us up to debates around 
things like “trans rights” (not a valid concept) or which kids are “really 
trans,” and therefore would benefit from being medicalized as “trans kids” 
(no child should be and there is no such thing as a “trans kid”).

I fail to see why lying is polite or useful when talking about things like 
legislation and policy. It certainly isn’t polite or useful when dealing 
with kids whose brains are not fully developed and are at risk of having 
their bodies destroyed for life on account of said lies.

You might like to think of yourself as a “live and let live” kind of 
person. You might think there are more important issues than 
transgenderism. You might think, “Why not just let some people identify 
however they like.” But we are talking about something much bigger: the 
truth. And reality. We are also talking about women’s rights and the 
safety and wellbeing of kids.

But if anything, truth and reality are hills worth dying on.

Trans activists are manipulating reality and impeding our ability to speak 
the truth via language. Don’t play along.

<https://meghanmurphy.substack.com/p/theres-no-such-thing-as-being-
transphobic>