Re: 80-year-old granny banned from YMCA after demanding biological male leave women's locker room where little girls were undressing
Ed Debevic <[email protected]> Fri, 02 Sep 2022 13:42:53 -0400
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 08:29:02 -0000 (UTC), zinn <[email protected]> wrote: >An 80-year-old Washington state woman has been banned from using her local >YMCA's public pool after she expressed discomfort with a biological male >in the womenÂs locker room as young girls were undressing. She was in the >shower when she heard a male voice and peeked out to find a biological >male in a women's swimsuit engaging with little girls who were undressing. > >The biological male was reportedly with girls from the day camp, >overseeing their bathroom activities. Addressing the Port Townsend City >Council on Monday, Julie Jaman, a resident of Port Townsend of about 40 >years, described the situation she had been in after her regular swim at >the Mountain Valley Pool. > >"In an effort by the city and the YMCA to apply the neo-cultural gender >rules at Mountain View Pool dressing, shower room facilities, women and >children are being put at risk," Jaman said. > >Jaman said that she had been showering after her July 26 swim at the pool, >when she heard "a manÂs voice in the womenÂs dressing area." She said that >she saw "a man in a womenÂs swimsuit, watching little girls pull down >their bathing suits in order to use the toilets in the dressing room." > >In an email from the YMCAÂs Marketing and Communications Manager to The >Post Millennial, they said that the staff member was not "engaging" with >these girls, but rather escorting them to the dressing room. > >According to the Port Townsend Free Press, Jaman, who had been in the >shower when she realized what was happening, hidden behind thin, sheer >shower curtains, asked this person, revealed to go by the name Clementine >Adams, "Do you have a penis?" > >"None of your business," Adams reportedly responded. > >"Get out of here, right now," Jaman replied. > >"YouÂre discriminating and you canÂt use the pool anymore and IÂm calling >the police," YMCA aquatics manager Rowen DeLuna told Jaman after she >requested that Adams leave the room, according to the Port Townsend Free >Press. > >In an email from the YMCAÂs Marketing and Communications Manager, they >said that Jaman was not permanently suspended for this incident alone, but >rather due to "repeatedly violating the Olympic Peninsula YMCA code of >conduct, specifically, using disrespectful words or gestures towards YMCA >staff or others; and abusive, harassing and/or obscene language or >gestures towards YMCA staff or others." > >The manager said that the facility has experiences past issues, but that >the incident in the changing room was "unforgivable and extremely >harmful." > >As Jaman attempted to leave the building, DeLuna reportedly told Jaman >that she was not abiding by the YMCAÂs principles and values. > >Another YMCA staffer reportedly blocked Jaman from leaving, to which Jaman >said, "Bullsh*t! IÂm going to the police right now. I want help and I need >it immediately." > >Jaman went next door to the police, and later received a call back from >Port Townsend Police Officer Marc Titterness. > >In a police call report obtained by the Port Townsend Free Press, >Titterness said that Jaman "had an emotional response to a strange male >being in the bathroom and helping a young girl take off her bathing suit." > >This call report also contained call records made by an anonymous person >from the YMCA, who told police that "Clementine was in the bathroom with a >child in the day camp and Julie asked if she had a penis and started >screaming at her to get out." > >In another call, this person said that Jaman had "been asked to leave and >is refusing." > >Yet another call said that Jaman "was screaming at employee and calling >names and refusing to leave." > >Jaman had also spoke with Wendy Bart, the CEO of the Olympic Peninsula >YMCA, who stood by the actions of her employees. > >Bart said that a staff member claimed Jaman said to Adams, "YouÂre going >to stick your fucking penis in those little girls." > >According to the Substack "The Distance," Jaman denied ever saying this, >noting "I am an 80 year-old woman and I do not talk like that." > >"There is no signage informing women the shower room is now all gender and >what that means, nor have parents been informed of what they can expect >with these new policies," Jaman told the City Council. > >Per Washington state law, "All covered entities shall allow individuals >the use of gender-segregated facilities, such as restrooms, locker rooms, >dressing rooms, and homeless or emergency shelters, that are consistent >with that individual's gender expression or gender identity." > >"The Y has not provided any dressing, shower room options for women who do >not want to be exposed to men who identify as women," Jaman added. > >The YMCA manager told The Post Millennial though that within the changing >rooms, there are private stalls that close and lock for individuals that >would like additional privacy within the changing rooms. > >Jaman continued, "The staff seems to have received little professional >training on how to handle reactions to such a radical cultural change, >particularly for the most vulnerable, older female patrons and children >who may be exposed to inappropriate behavior. The dignity and safety of >unsuspecting women who have trusted to use these facilities for many >years. This is not right." > >In response to her banning, Jaman and supporters have taken to protesting >outside of the pool, arguing that that the YMCA has promised the addition >of all-gender bathrooms, but that instead, "took over the traditional >binary areas." > >The following day, on August 2, the YMCA manager told The Post Millennial >said that around 60 people had congregated outside the facility, but that >a large portion of this group came out in support of the facilityÂs >actions. > >"The Y will uphold and respect this law in regards to YMCA staff, members, >and program participants that use Mountain View Pool. At the Y, our goal >is to provide an atmosphere free from discrimination, hatred, derogatory >or unwelcome comments, intimidation, or actions based on an individualÂs >sex, age, race, ethnicity, religion, disability, sexual orientation, >gender identity or expression or any other legally protected status," a >press release from the YMCA states. > >https://thepostmillennial.com/80-year-old-granny-banned-from-ymca-after- >demanding-biological-male-leave-womens-locker-room-where-little-girls- >were-undressing Too bad Auschwitz wasn't still open for business. That would have been a great place for the trannies to shower