Bump: Re: It Will Not Be A Free World So Long As We Have Punishment

On 4/2/2022 9:32 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
> If someone killed your spouse and child and cut off your hand, would you just blow
> them away, or want to?
>
> And if they were sorry and repentant and you believed them, would it make any
> difference?
>
> And if you were driving along a dark windy road one night, and hit an icy patch,
> and went off the road, and your spouse and child died, and you lost your hand, and
> it was no one's fault, and there was nobody to blame, how would that compare?
>
> It will not be a free world so long as we have punishment.  Our government has not
> even risen to the lofty level of "an eye for an eye," much less the ministry of
> forgiveness, and "turn the other cheek."  "An eye for an eye, and whole world
> would be blind," they say, no, an eye for an eye, and the whole world would be
> FREE.  That was the point, the Old Testament had, not an eye for an INSULT.
>
> Jesus preaches forgiveness.  But our government continues to persecute the
> innocent, as in days of old.
>
> Imposing one's subjective values onto others is objectively wrong and immoral.
> Those who do not believe in scientific morality and legal science, cannot pretend
> to believe in morality nor law at all.  So how can they continue perpetrating them
> and imposing them *with* objective violence.
>
> "Do unto others" is the whole of the law, not "do what thou wilt."  "Do unto
> others" is the whole of the law, not "legislate what thou wilt."
>
> Freedom is right, and doing something against someone else's will is wrong.  And
> murder is the greatest act against someone else's will.
>
> A valid nation is not a nation of laws, for this would mean a nation of wrongs.
> Yet a valid nation is a nation of rights, and there is no wrong, without a right
> violated.
>
> Our government should only address murder and other capital crimes, and perhaps
> all of these need to be serial:
>
> Murder
> Mayhem
> Capital Battery
> Capital Kidnapping
>
> Serial Non-Capital Kidnapping
> Serial Rape and Serial Grand Battery
> Serial Extortion of the same person
> Serial Abuse of someone who can't quit someone such as a dependent
>
> Capital Larceny
>
> (Crimes are petty, grand, or capital.
> (Should there be sub grand, and super grand also?))
>
>
> We should have zero crime, and zero punishment in our societies.  But what is
> crime?  One cannot lie about what they are selling, thus drugs must be marketed as
> the poison they are, for consumer and employee protections have much merit.
>
>
> Most people who murder do not re-offend.
>
> Cops arrest 27,000 people per day, 7,000 people die naturally daily, 40 people are
> murdered, cops kill 3 people per day, and 2 people die to serial killers, or less,
> per day.
>
> Cops arrest 10,000,000 people per year, 2.5 million people die naturally, 15,000
> are murdered, cops kill 1,000 per year, and 600 die to serial killers, or less,
> per year.
>
> Many of those arrested are held illegally, against the U.S. Constitution, which
> says, you "shall not be held, without indictment."
>
> However, these statistics do not take into account the numbers of other people
> effectively murdered through the above noted "Capital Crimes."  I have not
> analyzed everything.
>
> What's left?  What to do about serial manslaughter from a pattern of gross
> negligent behavior, and grand larceny - mostly grand fraud, of which there are
> near 10 MILLION cases each averaging $130,000 U.S. dollars, or over $1 TRILLION
> per year, in the U.S. alone.  We could perhaps allocate our resources to tracking
> down these frauds, and billing, as well as having insurance for the victims,
> rather than persecuting the perpetrators, and not paying the victims back.
> See "Report to the Nation" Association of Certified Fraud Examiners:
> https://www.acfe.com/fraud-resources/report-to-the-nations-archive
> That said, stealing from those who have the same or less than you, should be
> explained to everyone as wrong and immoral.  And stealing a poor man's horse is
> CAPITAL.  And if you steal from those who have more than you, eventually they will
> have the same or less than you, and eventually it will be capital.  At the same
> time, withholding is as wrong as robbery, and robbery is as right as withholding,
> in an extremely economically unfair, unjust civilization which relies almost 100%
> on Nepotism - that is favoritism to one's relatives, and one's fortunes are
> determined by one's education, which is not free for the poor, nor do they have
> sufficient economic support, nor even fair minimum wages in much of the country.
> We demand Community College be free.
>
> We deserve a free country and we've been promised one all along, but this does not
> mean libertarian economics, but socialism, for property is freedom, and LIBERTINE
> socialism must triumph over both the totalitarians and the economic exploitators
> who have different values from those who have less than them.
>
> "Educate the children, and you won't have to punish the men." - Pythagoras
>
> There should be no extradition out of the County.
>

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