Re: John Seiler: Surveillance state invades San Clemente
John Doof <[email protected]>
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On 21/4/26 12:35, Immigration Has Rules wrote: > If you live in San Clemente: Smile, you’re on Candid Camera! In this > case, it’s not the TV joke show that ran, on and off, from 1948 to 2014, > and used hidden cameras to catch people in funny situations. It’s the > U.S. government. > > The Register reported on Jan. 21 the San Clemente City Council approved > a plan to partner with U.S. Customs and Border Protection “to get a $1 > million camera and sensor monitoring system up and running on a hilltop > at the Avenida Salvador Reservoir.” The vote was three council members > for, one against and one abstaining. The snooping will be operational by > the end of this month. The Feds will pay for everything. > > The reason is to spy out “panga” boats, which bring illegal immigrants > ashore. “We’ve had 18 panga landings on our beaches in the last year or > so,” said Mayor Pro Tem Steve Knoblock, explaining his yea vote, as KABC > reported from the meeting. He said that’s more than half the pangas > landing in Orange and Los Angeles counties. > > According to Wikipedia, Pangas are between 19 and 22 feet in length and > powered by outboard motors. A typical panga, such as one intercepted off > Oceanside in Jan. 2025, carries around 26 people. > > “It not only looks over our entire town, but the camera can see all the > way up to Laguna Niguel and Mission Viejo,” Councilmember Mark Enmeier, > the sole nay vote, told me. He said the CBP told the Council the camera > will have “special blinders” to block out spying on residences. > “However, they can turn the blinders off at any moment if they think > there is some smuggling operation occurring. I brought up issues of > privacy numerous times at the Council meeting. My concerns were > dismissed as being paranoid.” > > He sent me images showing the camera’s line of sight would be clearly > looking right into San Clemente homes. > > The problem is the perennial one in America of protective surveillance > vs. the Fourth Amendment “right of the people to be secure in their > persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and > seizures.” That’s especially difficult these days when everyone wields a > cell phone taking pictures of everything. On the positive side, private > phone videos and police bodycams showed the abuses by ICE in Minnesota > that killed two American citizens. > > And just as your iPhone 17 is multiples more powerful than your 2001 > Motorola flip phone, thermal imaging has become much more invasive. AI > now expands detection distance and provides “a fusion analytic that > couples motion detection, neural network classification databases and > behavior analytics,” explained Matt Strautman of FLIR Security in New > Hampshire to SDM magazine, which focuses on security matters. > > “If this camera is surveilling private property, it certainly raises > Fourth Amendment concerns,” Marc Scribner, a senior analyst at the Los > Angeles-based Reason Foundation, told me. He pointed to the 2001 U.S. > Supreme Court decision Kyllo v. United States. In the case, a federal > agent used a thermal imaging device to spy into the home of Danny Kyllo > to detect if he was using high-intensity lamps to grow marijuana. > > The majority opinion was written by conservative Justice Antonin Scalia. > He said a search warrant is needed if “the Government uses a device that > is not in general public use, to explore details of a private home that > would previously have been unknowable without physical intrusion.” > Enmeier said the CBP would not provide details of the camera that will > surveil San Clemente. Then we have to assume whatever camera they use > could violate Kyllo. > > Unfortunately, Enmeier said there’s no movement by private citizens to > contest the camera in court. A local ballot measure to overturn the > Council’s acquiescence in the spying potentially could be placed on the > Nov. 3 ballot. But there’s no movement there, either. > > What San Clemente needs is the Minneapolis spirit of resistance that > forced ICE to retreat from its abuses in Minnesota. The CBP should be > required to deal with the panga boats without sinking the Bill of > Rights. > > John Seiler is on the editorial board of the Southern California News > Group > > John Seiler is also part of the problem. He is a sanctuary city > proponent. > > https://www.ocregister.com/2026/02/18/john-seiler-surveillance-state-inva > des-san-clemente/ > Good