"LGB Without The T": Why Some Are Saying Trans-Rights Activists Have Crossed The Line

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The LGBTQ community appears to be on the brink of a schism as trans-rights 
activists push harder and harder to blur the lines defining sex and single-
sex spaces — often disproportionately encroaching on spaces meant to be 
limited to only women.

There are certainly some cases involving trans men, particularly with regard 
to alleged discrimination in health care when a woman who identifies as a man 
goes through pregnancy, but the vast majority of the activism comes from 
trans-identifying men demanding access to spaces that are traditionally for 
females only.

The advocacy itself stretches across many fronts — from women’s sports to 
women’s shelters to women’s prisons, hitting up every rest stop restroom in 
between — and has forced its way onto college campuses, into high schools and 
middle schools, and even into elementary schools.

The stated goal is equality or equal access, but the end result is that a 
growing number of titles and achievements that were previously only open to 
women are being quickly taken up by biological males:

• A 6’1? fully intact biological male — who was allowed to walk freely among 
  biological women as they stripped and changed into their bathing suits — is 
  now an NCAA swimming champion.

• A female cyclist, after years and years of difficult training, quit the 
  sport she loved because she was being forced into unfair competition with 
  biological males.

• A male assistant secretary of Health and Human Services earned the 
  distinction of “Woman of the Year.”

And while there are certainly a number of women who feel slighted and, in 
fact, cheated by the increasingly common male intrusions into what should 
have been their crowning moments, there are other instances in which having 
female-only spaces is more about physical security and emotional well-being 
than about simply missing out on a trophy or award.

In women’s prisons, for example, inmates are literally kept under lock and 
key. Allowing biological males into that environment puts those women at 
risk. While advocates again state that the goal is equality and acceptance, 
the number of male sexual predators who suddenly begin to identify as female 
when prison time is in the cards suggests that to them, it is more about easy 
access to helpless victims.

Women’s shelters – particularly shelters for women who are escaping the 
threat of domestic abuse – fall into the same category, as women seeking 
assistance in such shelters may not feel safe if the doors are also opened to 
intact biological males.

Regardless, unfettered access to these things and more is what the trans 
activist community demands — and anyone who objects to or even questions the 
orthodoxy is quickly labeled a Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist (TERF) or 
a transphobe. Despite that, more and more of the objections are coming from 
within the LGB community itself.

The main argument, from those who say that LGB should be viewed as a wholly 
separate entity, is that their community is based on sexuality or sexual 
preferences. The TQ community, they argue, is rooted in gender identity and 
even in radical gender ideology — and their insistence that identity is more 
important than biology has led to increasing objections.

The trans activist community has also become increasingly hostile to gay men 
who choose not to date women who identify as men and to lesbian women who say 
they are not attracted to men who identify as women, arguing that their 
personal preferences are rooted in transphobia — and some of them have begun 
to push back.

“This trans-identified female believes us gay men need to ‘unpack’ why we 
aren’t into females. This is a minute and a half of sexual entitlement and 
#WokeHomophobia! #DropTheT #LGBWithoutTheT #LGBWithoutTheTQ,” one tweet from 
Rob (@redpilledhomo) read.

     This trans-identified female believes us gay men need to "unpack" why 
     we aren't into females. This is a minute and a half of sexual 
     entitlement and #WokeHomophobia! #DropTheT #LGBWithoutTheT 
     #LGBWithoutTheTQ pic.twitter.com/wjd0iKzw8i

     — Rob ?? (@redpilledhomo) April 6, 2023

“We AREN’T part of the same community! Us LGBs have been force-teamed with 
the TQ+ who have been colonizing our spaces, calling us bigots when we won’t 
sleep with them, and trans-washing our history. We’re just defending our own. 
#LGBWithoutTheT,” Rob added.

     That's where you're wrong, bucko! We AREN'T part of the same community! 
     Us LGBs have been force-teamed with the TQ+ who have been colonizing 
     our spaces, calling us bigots when we won't sleep with them, and trans-
     washing our history. We're just defending our own. #LGBWithoutTheT 
     https://t.co/Rz0867XPr5

     — Rob ?? (@redpilledhomo) April 6, 2023

“This one wants to “kick the shit out of” gay men who won’t validate the 
gender delusions of straight women LARPing as us. This is violent 
#WokeHomophobia! #DropTheT #LGBWithoutTheT #LGBWithoutTheTQ,” Rob said.

     This one wants to "kick the shit out of" gay men who won't validate 
     the gender delusions of straight women LARPing as us. This is violent 
     #WokeHomophobia! #DropTheT #LGBWithoutTheT #LGBWithoutTheTQ      
pic.twitter.com/LwGL9YOITu

     — Rob ?? (@redpilledhomo) March 31, 2023

Others said that they drew the line when trans activists began advocating for 
younger and younger children to be given access to puberty blockers, aided in 
social transitions, and even given access to “gender-affirming” surgical 
interventions – many of which cannot be reversed if the person’s gender 
identity later changes again.

“Gays Against Groomers is a coalition of gay people who oppose the recent 
trend of indoctrinating and sexualizing children under the guise of ‘LGBTQIA
+’,” Gays Against Groomers tweeted.

     Gays Against Groomers is a coalition of gay people who oppose the recent 
     trend of indoctrinating and sexualizing children under the guise of 
     “LGBTQIA+”.

     THREAD ??

     — Gays Against Groomers (@againstgrmrs) June 29, 2022

“The first time you’re called ‘transphobic’ it’s horrible because you know 
you don’t hate anyone. So you research what it all means & you find out what 
is really going on. As soon as you’re educated, you couldn’t care less if 
you’re called transphobic. The alternative is horrific,” Sall Grover tweeted.

     The first time you’re called “transphobic” it’s horrible because you 
     know you don’t hate anyone. So you research what it all means & you 
     find out what is really going on. As soon as you’re educated, you 
     couldn’t care less if you’re called transphobic. The alternative is 
     horrific. pic.twitter.com/egr75bnCRl

     — Sall Grover (@salltweets) March 29, 2023

“Children emulate their heroes. What happens when their heroes are now gay, 
trans and non-binary? Hmm. Y’all think this is just about representation 
still? It’s not. It’s an agenda. Period,” the group added.

     Children emulate their heroes. What happens when their heroes are now 
     gay, trans and non-binary? Hmm.

     Y’all think this is just about representation still?

     It’s not. It’s an agenda. Period.

     ?? by our member Becky#GaysAgainstGroomers pic.twitter.com/def4NAi728

     — Gays Against Groomers (@againstgrmrs) April 5, 2023

They also shared the story of a child — one of many who has been encouraged 
by a teacher to adopt a new gender identity and hide it from parents — who 
was nearly driven to suicide as a result.

“New York teacher ‘manipulated’ fifth-grade student into changing gender 
without parents’ consent — which drove her to consider suicide. Gender 
ideologue teachers are actively harming our children,” the tweet read.

     New York teacher 'manipulated' fifth-grade student into changing gender 
     without parents' consent – which drove her to consider suicide.

     Gender ideologue teachers are actively harming our children.

     ?? by @GAG_Washington leader Alex#GaysAgainstGroomers      
pic.twitter.com/1785sFFaiw

     — Gays Against Groomers (@againstgrmrs) April 5, 2023

How far will it go? How far is too far? Has the “TQ+” community already 
crossed that line? Only time will tell.

     ?????? this guy is great ??????#LGBWithoutTheT pic.twitter.com/3aXiBjD1O7

     — Right Side of History™? (@xxclusionary) April 5, 2023

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