Re: God's Existence Is Proven by Several Mathematical Theorems within Standard Physics

James Redford <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism
Organization Forte - www.forteinc.com
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 00:39:33 -0500, "68g.1509" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 2/18/24 9:32 PM, James Redford wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:51:13 -0500, "68g.1509" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> Wow ! The flood of meaningless gobbldegoop never ends here !!!
>>>
>>> Oh well, hail Woden dude ....
>>>
>> 
>> The only way to avoid physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J.
>> Tipler's Omega Point cosmology is to reject the known laws of physics
>
>   You're taking your "laws of physics" WAY too far - WAY
>   beyond what they say.
>
>   Oh, and "omnipotent" gods - DOA due to the infinite
>   possibilities of irresolvable paradoxes.
>
>   Oh well, you're just another crank. Bye Bye.

To date the only peer-reviewed paper in a physics journal that has
criticized Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been in 1994 by
physicists Ellis and Dr. David Coule (see G. F. R. Ellis and D. H.
Coule, "Life at the end of the universe?", General Relativity and
Gravitation, Vol. 26, No. 7 [July 1994], pp. 731-739). In the paper,
Ellis and Coule unwittingly gave an argument that the Bekenstein Bound
violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics if the universe collapses
without having event horizons eliminated. Yet in order to bring about
the Omega Point, event horizons must be eliminated, and Tipler cites
this paper in favor of the fact that the known laws of physics require
the Omega Point to exist.

In his review (see Lawrence Krauss, "More dangerous than nonsense",
New Scientist, Vol. 194, No. 2603 [May 12, 2007], p. 53) of Prof.
Tipler's book The Physics of Christianity (New York: Doubleday, 2007),
Prof. Lawrence M. Krauss repeatedly commits the logical fallacy of
bare assertion. Krauss gives no indication that he followed up on the
endnotes in the book The Physics of Christianity and actually read
Tipler's physics journal papers. All that Krauss is going off of in
said review is Tipler's mostly nontechnical popular-audience book The
Physics of Christianity without researching Tipler's technical papers
in the physics journals. Krauss's review offers no actual lines of
reasoning for Krauss's pronouncements. His readership is simply
expected to imbibe what Krauss proclaims, even though it's clear that
Krauss is merely critiquing a popular-audience book which does not
attempt to present the rigorous technical details.

Ironically, Krauss has actually published a paper that greatly helped
to strengthen Tipler's Omega Point cosmology. Some have suggested that
the current acceleration of the universe's expansion due to the
positive cosmological constant would appear to obviate the Omega
Point. However, Profs. Krauss and Michael S. Turner point out that
"there is no set of cosmological observations we can perform that will
unambiguously allow us to determine what the ultimate destiny of the
Universe will be." (See Lawrence M. Krauss and Michael S. Turner,
"Geometry and Destiny", General Relativity and Gravitation, Vol. 31,
No. 10 [Oct. 1999], pp. 1453-1459.)

As pointed out with Ellis and Coule's criticism, this isn't the first
time that this ironic outcome has befallen critics of Tipler's Omega
Point cosmology. So when Tipler's critics actually do real physics
instead of issuing bare assertions and nihil ad rem cavils, they end
up making Tipler's case stronger. Ironic though it is, nevertheless
that's the expected result, since the Omega Point cosmology is
required by the known laws of physics.

Concerning Martin Gardner's review of Profs. John D. Barrow and
Tipler's book The Anthropic Cosmological Principle (Oxford: Clarendon
Press, 1986), notice that Martin Gardner never states any error on
Tipler's part within said review. However, I do find the below
exchange between Tipler and Gardner to be quite telling; it transpired
from Gardner's aforesaid review of Barrow and Tipler's book. Note
Gardner's two-word reply to Tipler.

* Frank J. Tipler, reply by Martin Gardner, "The FAP Flop", New York
Review of Books, Vol. 33, No. 19 (Dec. 4, 1986),
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/4946 ,
https://webcitation.org/67Fw7SAdg . In reply to Martin Gardner, "WAP,
SAP, PAP, & FAP", New York Review of Books, Vol. 33, No. 8 (May 8,
1986), https://archive.is/QXsv3 , https://webcitation.org/6c7ZmxVbU .

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James Redford

Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
curriculum vitæ (ark:/13960/t6g19878v):
https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf ,
https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf
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