Re: Masih Alinejad

In article <[email protected]>,
 David Dalton <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
>  David Dalton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Tonight on the TV channel CBC News Network there was a 
> > rebroadcast of the Fifth Estate episode The Dissidents,
> > mainly featuring Iranian American journalist, feminist,
> > and activist Masih Alinejad.
> > 
> > From this old out of town laptop I can't access 
> > CBC Gem or YouTube, but I think you can stream
> > the episode from either of those, possibly through
> > https://gem.cbc.ca/the-fifth-estate/s48 .  I could
> > check on my iPhone but I have other matters to
> > pursue.
> > 
> > And since Ms. Alinejad does not seem to have as much
> > positive charisma modulation as I would expect,
> > I think my efforts recounted on alt.religion.druid
> > are not yet bearing fruit, but hope they will by
> > full moon.
> 
> However, since I am pagan and Ms. Alinejad is probably
> Muslim and has many Muslim supporters, she probably
> does not want to be associated with me (and is not).
> 
> But we may agree on the following three of my
> essential messages, especially the second one:
> 
> --no discrimination against women, children, or men (but e.g. it should 
> be acceptable to have same sex sweat lodges, if there are ones for the 
> other gender too and the majority in the path agree with such practice; 
> or even acceptable to have a same sex religious organization such as 
> Dianic Wicca, as long as there is an allied parallel group for the other 
> gender, and the majority of those in the two dual male and female groups 
> agree with the practice); and ordination of both genders must be 
> possible at all levels (that does not mean that in a religion with one 
> leader that there must be suddenly both a male and female leader, though 
> that could be considered, but that the leader spot would become open to 
> both genders if it is not already) in paths that include both genders. 
> Even if you believe your Deity to be male that does not mean human males 
> have to be supreme over human females.
> 
> --related to the above, there should be choice of dress for people 
> including women though I think given that choice many would still choose 
> traditional garb but should not be forced to.
> 
> --no use of religious symbols as symbols of violence (so effectively as 
> if large gang symbols). The exception is if you are being attacked and 
> may draw on them for strength and courage in resistance, but resistance 
> does not mean terrorism against innocent civilians. If they are 
> religious symbols they should be symbols of peace and dialogue, else 
> they are not religious symbols that should be respected by governments. 
> 
> However I am not claiming to be a Prophet of Islam, Mohammed
> was the last Prophet of Islam.   But I am claiming to be an
> avatar type similar to Rama, Krishna, Jacob, Moses, Buddha,
> Jesus, Taliesin, and many others, but not Mohammed, who I
> think was a Founder/Guru/Missionary/Prophet type, similar
> to Abraham, Paul, Baha'u'llah, and I think Nanak.
> 
> Moreover, I do not believe in submission to God, but think
> that God expects us to think for ourselves, and that
> God (who I call Goddess) may test us in that regard.
> And I certainly do not believe in submission to anyone
> who claims to speak for God (and my essential messages
> are from me, though I don't think I will be allowed to
> proceed unless my eight main deities agree with at 
> least most of them).

Also I am not starting a new religion, and forbid anyone
from starting one in my name.  But my messages are for
my people, humans globally.

Another of my essential messages is:

--It is time we globally dropped (and made illegal where they are not) 
old military and/or religious pronouncements which I think were designed 
to increase population for military purposes or religious path strength; 
we now have a population of over 8 billion. (But note that I would push 
for dropping of such pronouncements even if global population was much 
lower and they should be dropped in sparsely populated rural areas as 
well as cities.) Such pronouncements include those:

(a)    against loving compatible adult same sex relationships, including 
same sex marriage and all governments with gays and lesbians among their 
citizens and religions that have gays and lesbians among their members 
would be criminally (and I hope legally soon where they are not) 
negligent in not conducting marriages for them, since such marriages 
reduce infidelity and promiscuity and sexually transmitted disease and 
death. If you are straight be straight, but let gays be gay, don't bully 
them

(b)    against masturbation . Masturbation is important in that it can 
help teens delay sexual activity (and result in fewer teen pregnancies 
and fewer needed abortions) and can help prospective rapists including 
pedophiles, including some ordained ones, release their tension without 
committing a crime. Also in masturbating while thinking of prospective 
partners the maximum orgasms should occur when there is strong 
compatibility, and said strong compatability is a key to lifelong 
relationships. Hence masturbation is a tool for determining who you 
should court. (Aside: Onan's fault was in not impregnating his dead 
brother's wife, and hence failing his then family duty, not because of 
the masturbation, i.e., not any masturbation would have been the crime, 
but just that one of avoiding his then family duty.)

(c)    against birth control before marriage (and for family planning 
after marriage; and condoms for protection against HIV and other STDs).

(d)    against committed marriage groups of more than two. Now some may 
say that polyamorists often have a lot of children but this is more true 
in sparsely populated rural areas than in cities, and also there would 
be in time just as many groups with one woman and two men as with one 
man and two women. Overall it would result in fewer children per parent 
and one could be at home while two work. But of course many would still 
choose marriage groups of two.

(e)    against education of girls and women, and employment, in all 
fields including political office, of women

(f)    for forced marriage especially forced early marriage. 

I bet that Masih Alinejad at least agrees with the dropping
of pronouncements for (e) and (f) at least.

-- 
David Dalton [email protected] https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)