Re: Are the "WOKE" gaslighting our newest generations into self-mutilation?

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On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 17:23:55 +0000, pandora  put forth the notion that: 
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> On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 10:16:36 -0600, Skeeter wrote:
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> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >> 
> >> On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:38:07 -0600, Skeeter wrote:
> >> 
> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >> > [email protected] says...
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 06:29:00 -0700, TRAITOR JOE'S BIDEN BALONEY
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Caution!  Always wear ANSI approved goggles when reading posts by
> >> >> > Checkmate!
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 00:10:03 +0000, pandora  put forth the notion
> >> >> > that: #
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> On Sat, 01 Oct 2022 16:20:01 -0700, TRAITOR JOE'S BIDEN BALONEY
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > Caution!  Always wear ANSI approved goggles when reading posts
> >> >> >> > by Checkmate!
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > On Sat, 01 Oct 2022 22:30:29 +0000, pandora  put forth the
> >> >> >> > notion that:
> >> >> >> > #
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 18:23:59 -0700, TRAITOR JOE'S BIDEN
> >> >> >> >> BALONEY wrote:
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > Caution!  Always wear ANSI approved goggles when reading
> >> >> >> >> > posts by Checkmate!
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 22:00:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda  put forth
> >> >> >> >> > the notion that:
> >> >> >> >> > #
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
> >> >> >> >> >>snowflakes,
> >> >> >> >> >>melt!
> >> >> >> >> >>On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 06:44:53 -0700, DIDDLER JIM'S GORMAN
> >> >> >> >> >>BALONEY waxed transphobic:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>> I didn't even know this was a thing until a few weeks ago.
> >> >> >> >> >>>  I thought the whole "transgender" movement was mainly a
> >> >> >> >> >>> male phenomenon, with certain effeminate, homosexual,
> >> >> >> >> >>> biological males yearning to be something they will never
> >> >> >> >> >>> be: females. No matter how they try to alter their
> >> >> >> >> >>> appearance, or try to demand that we refer to them as what
> >> >> >> >> >>> they can only pretend to be, they'll always be men.  Bruce
> >> >> >> >> >>> Jenner is a perfect example. Despite his best efforts,
> >> >> >> >> >>> he looks hideously like a man in drag, and his new
> >> >> >> >> >>> soft-spoken voice does nothing to improve his new persona.
> >> >> >> >> >>> Chastity Bono makes a more convincing male, but it appears
> >> >> >> >> >>> I may have gotten it wrong...
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Proof you are wrong:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>https://www.sapiens.org/biology/biological-science-rejects-
> the-
> >> >> sex-
> >> >> >> >> binary-and-thats-good-for-humanity/
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>> According to a number of articles I've recently run
> >> >> >> >> >>> across, this may be a bigger problem among females than
> >> >> >> >> >>> males.  I can sort of understand why... they spend the
> >> >> >> >> >>> first 10-12 years in one body, then suddenly discover one
> >> >> >> >> >>> day that the nipples that no one had ever had any interest
> >> >> >> >> >>> in, are budding out into a new and very visible part of
> >> >> >> >> >>> their identity.  Some are happy to see them, and some are
> >> >> >> >> >>> embarrassed at this new part of their identity that they
> >> >> >> >> >>> can never hide, and the often unwanted attention that
> >> >> >> >> >>> comes with it.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>And whose fault is that? Lecherous men, like the one you see
> >> >> >> >> >>in various reflective surfaces, Diddler.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>> What shocked me, was a two-part series on Fox Nation,
> >> >> >> >> >>> showing quite graphically how far the assault on nature
> >> >> >> >> >>> has been allowed to go.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Fox Nation ......... LOL
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>> The film shows girls obviously at the age of puberty, with
> >> >> >> >> >>> two long, horizontal scars across their chests where
> >> >> >> >> >>> they've had their breasts removed.  Even the nipples are
> >> >> >> >> >>> gone! Clearly, they have no concept of how this
> >> >> >> >> >>> irreversible decision will impact the rest of their adult
> >> >> >> >> >>> lives.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>No lactation for you!
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>> A couple older victims of this barbaric practice were also
> >> >> >> >> >>> interviewed and expressed profound regrets.  One of the
> >> >> >> >> >>> victims was stunningly beautiful.  I felt genuinely sad
> >> >> >> >> >>> for her and wondered how her parents could have even given
> >> >> >> >> >>> their permission,
> >> >> >> >> >>> or if they were even required to.  Even the schools are
> >> >> >> >> >>> aiding and abetting this gender confusion of underage
> >> >> >> >> >>> students and encouraging them to keep the matter secret
> >> >> >> >> >>> from their parents...
> >> >> >> >> >>> WHY?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>To protect them from dangerously bigoted parents, of course.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>> Unrelated:  I only recently learned that pregnant mothers
> >> >> >> >> >>> are allowed to bring a baby to full term, and then tell
> >> >> >> >> >>> the doctor to "abort" (murder) it.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>[citation needed]
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>> How and why did we ever get to this point?  Even as an
> >> >> >> >> >>> agnostic,
> >> >> >> >> >>> I still sometimes wonder why we haven't all turned to
> >> >> >> >> >>> pillars of salt.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Just because you have a meltdown contemplating a thing, does
> >> >> >> >> >>not make that thing wrong, kooky.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Now go read that link:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>https://www.sapiens.org/biology/biological-science-rejects-
> the-
> >> >> sex-
> >> >> >> >> binary-and-thats-good-for-humanity/
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > All your irrelevant distractions about fish biology aside,
> >> >> >> >> > this transgender bullshit that has all the signs of a
> >> >> >> >> > human-engineered fad, at least in females, could actually be
> >> >> >> >> > a long overdue backlash to the ridiculous number of females
> >> >> >> >> > who almost consider it mandatory to get ridiculously over
> >> >> >> >> > sized breast "augmentation".
> >> >> >> >> >  Why can't people just settle for normalcy?  I'm not even
> >> >> >> >> >  sure
> >> >> >> >> > these young girls want to be boys, I think maybe they just
> >> >> >> >> > don't want boobs. Obviously, they haven't realized teh Power
> >> >> >> >> > of the booby.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Or perhaps they just don't want to be judged by whether or not
> >> >> >> >> they *have* boobs but rather as people deserving the same
> >> >> >> >> respect as others.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > They'll be judged for not having them too... probably much
> >> >> >> > more.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> That needs to end.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Humans will only quit judging each other when no one is
> >> >> > "different".
> >> >> > Kids are especially bad at this, which shows it's an innate trait
> >> >> > that we only learn to control with age and maturity.  I'm mostly
> >> >> > talking about birth defects and hideous injuries in this instance.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Judge not lest ye be judged.
> >> > 
> >> > From the bible and you said there was no God.
> >> 
> >> Indeed.  Men wrote that, not any god.
> >> 
> >> >> > If a girl chooses to mutilate herself by cutting her breasts off,
> >> >> > my guess is older adults would be more likely to judge her on that
> >> >> > behavior than her appearance.  I say it's a psychological problem
> >> >> > that should first be addressed by counseling rather than a knife.
> >> >> > People need time to adjust to the changes of puberty, and are not
> >> >> > likely to make rational decisions at its onset if they're seeing
> >> >> > it as an issue they're uncomfortable with.
> >> >> 
> >> >> I can agree with that.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Given a few years into adulthood, how are they
> >> >> > going to feel when they don't look like other adults?  I just
> >> >> > didn't know this was happening and think it's a new phenomenon
> >> >> > being pushed by the new anti-gender "Woke" crowd, which is doing a
> >> >> > lot of irreparable damage to affected individuals and society.
> >> >> 
> >> >> It's their business; no one else's.
> > 
> > So you believe in the bible but you really don't?
> 
> 
> I believe the bible is a book written by men who were trying to 
> understand the universe from their limited knowledge.

It was written by men over 200 years after Jesus died, so none of them ever 
knew him, or knew anybody who had known him.  The men who wrote it wrote 
under the names of the apostles to gain credibility.  I suspect the body of 
Jesus was "disappeared" and claimed to be a "resurrection".  A pretty 
convenient way of covering up any evidence, while also claiming a miracle.  

When you see all the political tricks and head trips politicians use today 
and throughout history, you should realize that power hungry people have 
always been clever enough to fool a sufficient number of people to gain 
control.  Con man Joseph Smith picked up on how the game is played in 1820, 
when he claimed to have been given some magical golden plates by an angel, 
which he kept hidden in a hat.  He would "translate" them to an assistant to 
create the "Book of Mormon".  Unfortunately, he later "gave them back to the 
angel" so they can't be examined.  A skeptic such as myself has a hard time 
buying any of it.

On the other hand, the more I learn about the complexities of living 
organisms, the harder it is to imagine the number of fortuitous random events 
it would take for there not to be something that had a hand in our creation.  
I've always said if there's a god, he must be a scientist, and we're merely 
lab rats in an experiment that's nearing its end... at least as far as humans 
are concerned.

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