Re: Are the "WOKE" gaslighting our newest generations into self-mutilation?

On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 11:27:43 -0700, TRAITOR JOE'S BIDEN BALONEY wrote:

> Caution!  Always wear ANSI approved goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!
> 
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 17:23:55 +0000, pandora  put forth the notion that:
> #
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>> On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 10:16:36 -0600, Skeeter wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > [email protected] says...
>> >> 
>> >> On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:38:07 -0600, Skeeter wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> >> > [email protected] says...
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 06:29:00 -0700, TRAITOR JOE'S BIDEN BALONEY
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > Caution!  Always wear ANSI approved goggles when reading posts
>> >> >> > by Checkmate!
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 00:10:03 +0000, pandora  put forth the
>> >> >> > notion that: #
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 01 Oct 2022 16:20:01 -0700, TRAITOR JOE'S BIDEN
>> >> >> >> BALONEY wrote:
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > Caution!  Always wear ANSI approved goggles when reading
>> >> >> >> > posts by Checkmate!
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > On Sat, 01 Oct 2022 22:30:29 +0000, pandora  put forth the
>> >> >> >> > notion that:
>> >> >> >> > #
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 18:23:59 -0700, TRAITOR JOE'S BIDEN
>> >> >> >> >> BALONEY wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> > Caution!  Always wear ANSI approved goggles when reading
>> >> >> >> >> > posts by Checkmate!
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 22:00:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda  put
>> >> >> >> >> > forth the notion that:
>> >> >> >> >> > #
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> >>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
>> >> >> >> >> >>snowflakes,
>> >> >> >> >> >>melt!
>> >> >> >> >> >>On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 06:44:53 -0700, DIDDLER JIM'S GORMAN
>> >> >> >> >> >>BALONEY waxed transphobic:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> I didn't even know this was a thing until a few weeks
>> >> >> >> >> >>> ago.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>  I thought the whole "transgender" movement was mainly
>> >> >> >> >> >>>  a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> male phenomenon, with certain effeminate, homosexual,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> biological males yearning to be something they will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> never be: females. No matter how they try to alter
>> >> >> >> >> >>> their appearance, or try to demand that we refer to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> them as what they can only pretend to be, they'll
>> >> >> >> >> >>> always be men.  Bruce Jenner is a perfect example.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Despite his best efforts,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> he looks hideously like a man in drag, and his new
>> >> >> >> >> >>> soft-spoken voice does nothing to improve his new
>> >> >> >> >> >>> persona.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Chastity Bono makes a more convincing male, but it
>> >> >> >> >> >>> appears I may have gotten it wrong...
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Proof you are wrong:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>https://www.sapiens.org/biology/biological-science-
rejects-
>> the-
>> >> >> sex-
>> >> >> >> >> binary-and-thats-good-for-humanity/
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> According to a number of articles I've recently run
>> >> >> >> >> >>> across, this may be a bigger problem among females than
>> >> >> >> >> >>> males.  I can sort of understand why... they spend the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> first 10-12 years in one body, then suddenly discover
>> >> >> >> >> >>> one day that the nipples that no one had ever had any
>> >> >> >> >> >>> interest in, are budding out into a new and very
>> >> >> >> >> >>> visible part of their identity.  Some are happy to see
>> >> >> >> >> >>> them, and some are embarrassed at this new part of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> their identity that they can never hide, and the often
>> >> >> >> >> >>> unwanted attention that comes with it.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>And whose fault is that? Lecherous men, like the one you
>> >> >> >> >> >>see in various reflective surfaces, Diddler.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> What shocked me, was a two-part series on Fox Nation,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> showing quite graphically how far the assault on nature
>> >> >> >> >> >>> has been allowed to go.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Fox Nation ......... LOL
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> The film shows girls obviously at the age of puberty,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> with two long, horizontal scars across their chests
>> >> >> >> >> >>> where they've had their breasts removed.  Even the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> nipples are gone! Clearly, they have no concept of how
>> >> >> >> >> >>> this irreversible decision will impact the rest of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> their adult lives.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>No lactation for you!
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> A couple older victims of this barbaric practice were
>> >> >> >> >> >>> also interviewed and expressed profound regrets.  One
>> >> >> >> >> >>> of the victims was stunningly beautiful.  I felt
>> >> >> >> >> >>> genuinely sad for her and wondered how her parents
>> >> >> >> >> >>> could have even given their permission,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> or if they were even required to.  Even the schools are
>> >> >> >> >> >>> aiding and abetting this gender confusion of underage
>> >> >> >> >> >>> students and encouraging them to keep the matter secret
>> >> >> >> >> >>> from their parents...
>> >> >> >> >> >>> WHY?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>To protect them from dangerously bigoted parents, of
>> >> >> >> >> >>course.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Unrelated:  I only recently learned that pregnant
>> >> >> >> >> >>> mothers are allowed to bring a baby to full term, and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> then tell the doctor to "abort" (murder) it.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>[citation needed]
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> How and why did we ever get to this point?  Even as an
>> >> >> >> >> >>> agnostic,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> I still sometimes wonder why we haven't all turned to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> pillars of salt.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Just because you have a meltdown contemplating a thing,
>> >> >> >> >> >>does not make that thing wrong, kooky.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Now go read that link:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>https://www.sapiens.org/biology/biological-science-
rejects-
>> the-
>> >> >> sex-
>> >> >> >> >> binary-and-thats-good-for-humanity/
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > All your irrelevant distractions about fish biology
>> >> >> >> >> > aside, this transgender bullshit that has all the signs
>> >> >> >> >> > of a human-engineered fad, at least in females, could
>> >> >> >> >> > actually be a long overdue backlash to the ridiculous
>> >> >> >> >> > number of females who almost consider it mandatory to get
>> >> >> >> >> > ridiculously over sized breast "augmentation".
>> >> >> >> >> >  Why can't people just settle for normalcy?  I'm not even
>> >> >> >> >> >  sure
>> >> >> >> >> > these young girls want to be boys, I think maybe they
>> >> >> >> >> > just don't want boobs. Obviously, they haven't realized
>> >> >> >> >> > teh Power of the booby.
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> Or perhaps they just don't want to be judged by whether or
>> >> >> >> >> not they *have* boobs but rather as people deserving the
>> >> >> >> >> same respect as others.
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > They'll be judged for not having them too... probably much
>> >> >> >> > more.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> That needs to end.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Humans will only quit judging each other when no one is
>> >> >> > "different".
>> >> >> > Kids are especially bad at this, which shows it's an innate
>> >> >> > trait that we only learn to control with age and maturity.  I'm
>> >> >> > mostly talking about birth defects and hideous injuries in this
>> >> >> > instance.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Judge not lest ye be judged.
>> >> > 
>> >> > From the bible and you said there was no God.
>> >> 
>> >> Indeed.  Men wrote that, not any god.
>> >> 
>> >> >> > If a girl chooses to mutilate herself by cutting her breasts
>> >> >> > off, my guess is older adults would be more likely to judge her
>> >> >> > on that behavior than her appearance.  I say it's a
>> >> >> > psychological problem that should first be addressed by
>> >> >> > counseling rather than a knife. People need time to adjust to
>> >> >> > the changes of puberty, and are not likely to make rational
>> >> >> > decisions at its onset if they're seeing it as an issue they're
>> >> >> > uncomfortable with.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I can agree with that.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Given a few years into adulthood, how are they
>> >> >> > going to feel when they don't look like other adults?  I just
>> >> >> > didn't know this was happening and think it's a new phenomenon
>> >> >> > being pushed by the new anti-gender "Woke" crowd, which is
>> >> >> > doing a lot of irreparable damage to affected individuals and
>> >> >> > society.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> It's their business; no one else's.
>> > 
>> > So you believe in the bible but you really don't?
>> 
>> 
>> I believe the bible is a book written by men who were trying to
>> understand the universe from their limited knowledge.
> 
> It was written by men over 200 years after Jesus died, so none of them
> ever knew him, or knew anybody who had known him.  The men who wrote it
> wrote under the names of the apostles to gain credibility.  I suspect
> the body of Jesus was "disappeared" and claimed to be a "resurrection". 
> A pretty convenient way of covering up any evidence, while also claiming
> a miracle.

Sounds plausible.

> When you see all the political tricks and head trips politicians use
> today and throughout history, you should realize that power hungry
> people have always been clever enough to fool a sufficient number of
> people to gain control.  Con man Joseph Smith picked up on how the game
> is played in 1820, when he claimed to have been given some magical
> golden plates by an angel, which he kept hidden in a hat.  He would
> "translate" them to an assistant to create the "Book of Mormon". 
> Unfortunately, he later "gave them back to the angel" so they can't be
> examined.  A skeptic such as myself has a hard time buying any of it.

Me too.
 
> On the other hand, the more I learn about the complexities of living
> organisms, the harder it is to imagine the number of fortuitous random
> events it would take for there not to be something that had a hand in
> our creation. I've always said if there's a god, he must be a scientist,
> and we're merely lab rats in an experiment that's nearing its end... at
> least as far as humans are concerned.

That is also a possibility.  Of course, that raises the question of who 
created him/her/it.  Too much for my brain.