Re: HOPE but not faith
Skeeter <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnosticism,talk.philosophy.humanism,sci.skeptic,alt.magick |
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| Organization | UTB inc. |
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > Skeeter wrote: > > [email protected] says... > > > Skeeter wrote: > > > > [email protected] says... > > > > > Skeeter wrote: > > > > > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says... > > > > > > > On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything is the consequence of something. No thing can create itself. > > > > > > > >  It needs a cause. Thus eternal God or nothing would be here. No thing > > > > > > > > can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sylvia. > > > > > > > > > > > > He created it? > > > > > > > > > > Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to? > > > > > > > > It wouldn't be eternal if it was created. > > > > > > So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an > > > eternal universe. > > > > > > Twist it around as usual. > > You said it, not me. > > > If it was created it cannot be eternal. > > Of course it can. Any omnipotent god can create > something that lasts forever. If he can't, he's not > omnipotent and he needs to go back to god school. If it was created it had a beginning.