Re: NASA's great conspiracy

"Andrew W" <[email protected]> Mon, 7 Jul 2025 10:23:50 +1000
Newsgroups sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,alt.alien.research,alt.ufo.reports
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
"Malte Runz"  wrote in message 
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>
>On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 09:22:06 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>"Malte Runz"  wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
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>>>On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 09:58:50 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Malte Runz"  wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:24:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>Crashed craft retrieval cases have come out hundreds of times. ...
>>>>>
>>>>>Now, that's what I call a 'positive claim', and we all know what that
>>>>>entails.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Only mainstream media followers and 'authority' followers have never 
>>>>heard
>>>>of that. Normies.
>>>
>>>Of course I've heard the claims made before. Do you think you're the
>>>only kook on the internet?
>>>
>>
>>If you call me a kook then you also have to call air force pilots, senior
>>military officials and investigators etc. kooks too. ...
>
>And I do.
>

You have little or no knowledge or qualification to do so. It's you who has 
no credibility.
Pilots and military officials are highly trained and have a career to look 
after. They can't afford to talk crap.


>
>Did you see the hearings in the US Congress a while back?
>The airforce (?) guy who claimed that some of his superiors had
>ADMITTED!!!! that they were in the possession of alien crafts? He
>looked so god damned miserable in his chair, when it dawned on him
>that nobody believed him and that he most likely was the butt of a
>joke everyone else was in on. A proper kook, but honestly, I felt
>sorry for the guy.
>

That's just your woke emotion based reaction. You've been conditioned since 
a young age to ridicule such things, and that's because of the CIA ridicule 
program that's been running for decades, which you also don't know about.
Why do you never ask the obvious question: Why would governments go to so 
much trouble to cover this up? I think you're not smart enough to think this 
far.


>
>>It's far more likely that you're just an ignorant arrogant smartass troll
>>reacting from your emotions.
>
>Ignorant, no. But arrogant smartass, yes.
>

Thanks for the part admission.


>
>>>>>> ... Upgrade your
>>>>>>sources.
>>>>>
>>>>>Name one.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Of course you don't know any except the mainstream info suppressing 
>>>>ones.
>>>
>>>I can't possibly know what /your/ sources are.
>>>
>>
>>You don't have any proper sources so you're always on the lookout for 
>>some.
>>That's obvious.
>
>Is this how you think it plays out in my mind?:
>
>'Wow! They have captured live aliens!!! How can I learn about that?
>

You don't want to learn about that, you just want to follow mainstream 
authorities.


>
>Right, I better ask Andrew. He knows soooo much about these topics.
>

You wouldn't know who knows things/truths. You're obviously unable to 
determine that. You just picked the easy, convenient and satisfying side and 
stuck with it.


>
>Hey Andrew, can you refer me to a few of your superior sources,
>(because [snicker] I'm too lazy to look for it myself)?'
>
>You know exactly why I ask you for the evidence that has convinced
>you. (No, not the one single piece of evidence, and no, not all the
>evidence you have seen over the decades.)
>

Yes I know why you ask for my evidence and do zero proper research of your 
own (like normal people). You just want to ridicule whatever you've been 
conditioned to ridicule, because you're a man child.
Did your father lead to you to be like this? Was he a ridiculer and 
mainstream/gov authority and media follower?


>
>>>Von Däniken? Alex
>>>Jones? Random Dude on Rumor Mill?
>>>
>>
>>They're all far smarter than you. Why can't you find/see the real truth
>>instead of just troll?
>
>Listen, there is only one troll in this, and it is the guy who keeps
>posting outrageous and unsubstantiated claims that he is not willing
>to back up and debate in a meaningful way.
>

You really don't get it. There are actually curious people in this world who 
want to hear other than gov/media perspectives and narratives.
IOW my posts are not for your type. But I do like a challenge, and sometimes 
people's minds are actually opened.


>
>>>Why don't you want to tell me?
>>>
>>
>>Because you're just a dumb jerk who only follows and believes mainstream
>>slop.
>
>I think we have to look for the answer to my question elsewhere.
>

Your enquiries are false and insincere and you know it.

>
>I
>think you know that none of your sources would stand up to scrutiny.
>

You still think a.a is a courtroom or something.


>
>'A guy said X, and I choose to believe him!' and you're too
>embarrassed to show us.
>

You made up your mind a long time ago and you know it. You're just a clown 
and mainstream sycophant.


>
>>>>>And no, don't wiggle your way out the usual way, suggesting
>>>>>I'm too lazy to find one myself.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You are lazy, two minute Google result believer.
>>>
>>>Wiggle wiggle wiggle.
>>>
>>
>>You can't face the truth.
>
>Try me.
>

Just another troll attempt.


>
>>>>>Also, this is not about what my
>>>>>sources have to say, it's all about /your/ sources.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>But your sources are lying/suppressing crap. That's the real issue.
>>>
>>>You're the one making the claim, therefore you provide the evidence.
>>>This can't be a new concept to you.
>>>
>>
>>No I'm just passing on 'claims' by investigators and official witnesses.
>>You obviously live in a very small world.
>
>Appeal to authorities noted.
>

What level of authority are they?


>
>>>>>So, do you have an 'upgraded source' that provides evidence for the
>>>>>retrieval of a crashed craft created by an alien race?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have plenty ...
>>>
>>>So you say, but are unable to provide any. I call your bluff... again.
>>>
>>
>>So you want me to waste more time on the likes of you? Why?
>
>Ask yourself why you're responding to my posts in the first place.
>

It's an interesting challenge, and an opportunity to put clowns/jerks in 
their places, and inform them of the gov psyops and narrative programs that 
have been in place for decades.


>
>>>> ... but you will never search for yourself and switch. ...
>>>
>>>I can find hundreds, if not thousands, of people saying the same shit
>>>you do,
>>>
>>
>>Military officials talk shit? Ok smarty.
>
>Another appeal to authorities.
>

Diversion


>
>Do you now believe everything "military
>officials" say?
>

Of course not.
Have you checked them out at all?
And do you just believe the gov and media narratives?


>
>>>all claiming to have the evidence. Grainy images of out of
>>>focus gray blobs, un-named specialists and insiders spilling the
>>>beans, ancient wisdom, inter stellar revelations, anecdotal evidence
>>>of abductions, and of course, 'They are hiding the truth from us'.
>>>
>>
>>So you still don't know why the military and governments hide things from
>>the population? Are you dumb?
>
>If they are hiding all the good stuff how have you learned about it?
>

By looking at sources other than the narratives. The cover ups are quite 
obvious.


>
>What material have you gained access to? Material that I also could
>find on the internet... if I weren't so lazy.
>

More than I could post. Most I no longer have.
Do you want some? First you have to convince me that you're sincere and open 
minded and not just a sheep, clown and troll.


>
>>They put strict laws in place. Find out why and then come back.
>
>Name one law They have put in place.
>'§1: Keep the alien spaceships hidden from the gullible masses.'
>

In 1969, NASA passed a federal regulation dealing with ‘Extra-terrestrial 
Exposure’. The “Extraterrestrial Exposure Law” offers a legal precedent for 
the detention and indefinite imprisonment of any individual who comes into 
contact with extraterrestrials.


>
>>>Understand that I'm interested in learning what /you/ have found and
>>>where you found it.
>>>
>>
>>Yes you're obsessed about that. I get it. ...
>
>I really don't think you do.
>

So you're a very seasoned troll? Professional perhaps?


>
>> ... Your emotions just can't handle
>>'claims'. Get therapy.
>
>If therapy would make me believe stories about alien abductions and
>captured spaceships, I'd rather stay... 'emotional' regarding those
>things.
>

No not just believe. Why is it always just a case of believe or not believe 
with you? That's for sheep and followers.


>
>>>> ... You're not
>>>>interested.
>>>
>>>Of course I'm interested. I ask you for an answer every time. What
>>>evidence have /you/ seen?
>>>
>>
>>I've seen a few craft, in one case a cluster of them go across the sky. 
>>That
>>was before satellite clusters.
>
>Thank you. I'm now totally convinced that aliens from space have
>visited Earth. Just like I'm convinced that Elvis didn't die. And that
>Bigfoot is on the loose... somewhere out there.
>

Simpleton. You just want someone to come along and convince you. And it has 
to be an authority, that or nothing.


>
>>>>>My sole point is to expose you as a liar, and every time you fail to
>>>>>provide a source for your claims my point is proven.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, ...
>>>
>>>Yes. Did you, or didn't you, provide a source?
>>>
>>
>>Why do I have to? You'll just jerk off like always.
>
>If I had made a claim and was asked to provide evidence I'd be happy
>to do so. You, on the other hand, react like it is a personal attack
>when people ask for your sources.
>

Your wokeness, trolling and clown behaviour is an offense to every sensible 
mature person.


>
>>>You didn't. Instead you
>>>evaded my questions exactly the way I predicted you would.
>>>
>>
>>You're not a courtroom prosecutor so quit acting like one.
>
>Not going to happen. As long as you do your thing, I'll do mine.
>

You are sick.


>
>>A.a is so full of crap head stooges. It's a mental asylum.
>
>You've learned from the best.
>

Haha


>
>'They're letting all the people out of their mental asylums and
>sending them to A.A to DESTROY!!! the newsgroup. MAAGA!'
>

Whatever. Get help.


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