Re: ALIENS would be dumb! Stupid! Primitive!

On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 18:51:44 -0500, JTEM <[email protected]>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<[email protected]> wrote:

>  Attila wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 12:37:04 -0500, JTEM <[email protected]>
>
>>> Which means you never encountered me, I'm not "Here,"
>>> where ever your "Here" is.
>
>> Here is here.  Anywhere on Earth or even in orbit around
>> Earth.
>
>I don't buy that. You have "Encountered" me even from afar, even
>without ny physical proximity.

Not afar enough.

>
>We can "encounter" alien civilizations. For most of them, even
>"Intelligent" species, the term "Civilization" wouldn't even
>apply, they'd be so primitive, so this "Encounter" would be
>one-way.

None of that has happened as far as aliens are concerned.

>
>     ...unless we insanely decided otherwise.
>
>>> No, sorry, our routine lives do leave plenty of room
>>> for non physical encounters. We have them all the time.
>> 
>> Throw in mysticism and all bets are off.  Such an
>> "encounter" would be subjective and unprovable.
>
>No. We have the means to detect "Biosignatures" and even
>"Technosignatures." It likely will take some time and study
>before this method is accepted, because we could (can) make
>such detections beyond 100 light years already.

Not with any certainty.

>
> >> Whether aliens are buzzing the globe or grunting, shitting>> in 
>their hands and throwing it at each other, the way we
>>> will find them is through spectral analysis. We will detect
>>> the Biosignatures and/or Technosignatures in their atmosphere
>>>from a very great distance.
>
>> If tech is involved it is far ahead of us.
>
>No. The vast majority would be at our level OR LESS.

Nonsense.  We can do no such activity at our current level.

>
>>> Pretending that little green men are here, buzzing the earth,
>>> probing the bums of hapless victims stolen from their beds
>>> as they sleep -- they're hiding. They don't want us "To
>>> know" that they're here. They shower us with plausible
>>> deniability. So we can't find them, many have tried, but they
>>> can't hide their planet!
>
>> Which planet would that be? 
>
>Their planet. Their home world.

Which is where?

>
>This is how life on earth has been detectable for billions of
>years:

Unprovable.

>
>>> So all we've got to do is point a James Webb or similar tech
>>> at their world, perform a spectral analysis & identify it as
>>> the home & haunt of *Aliens!*
>
>Hmm...
>
>>> Life on earth has been detectable for BILLIONS of years.
>
>> How?
>
>See above.
>
>Life changes the planet.

Not from a distance.

>
>>> The
>>> fact of our industrialization has been detectable for more
>>> than a century.
>>> So if aliens are within 100 light years of
>>> us and are AT LEAST our level of technology, they know that
>>> we're here. You assume that they sat on that knowledge, I
>>> assume they'd immediately leap to that next step.
>
>> Provided they still use radio.
>
>No. Spectral analysis.

Of what?

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