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Grahame Lamblamb
they should have discharged pyle especially after stealing donuts and he was already overweight and out of shape
4 years ago
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cruz loera
Today he definitely would have. I'm not sure about Vietnam though. He would have been perfect to be on the front lines
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Liam Roberts
Yeah, I think they recruited any bloke they could find back then
4 years ago (edited)
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Sirrantsalot
+Liam Roberts You're correct. If you were 18 they could draft you during the Vietnam war.
3 years ago
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Jehovah's Thiccness
He's the opposite of perfect for the front lines. He would just get himself and other marines killed with his fuckups.
3 years ago
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elgatochurro
Liam Roberts anyone that wasn't in college
3 years ago
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The Great Ammuraf
Ian Sterner shouldve just left him alone and let him be a POG. Always need someone in logistics
3 years ago
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natedoggcata
We watched Full Metal Jacket when I was in a college ethics class and there was someone in the class who actually served in Vietnam. He said that blanket parties like this were a common occurrence in boot camp because they would send any one they could to Vietnam and Pyle is the kind of person that would get the whole squad killed.
3 years ago (edited)
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JustinILoveMusic Bates
I'm fat as fuck yet i can still do a damn pullup. Pyle was just lazy.
3 years ago
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Айаал Слепцов
JustinILoveMusic Bates Fat as fuck, and you can pull up. Tell me more please. Or fat as fuck = 5 kilograms overweight?
3 years ago
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chrismc410
Emilio Luis Acosta Blame the Draft Board on that one. They could have given Pyle a 4F and avoided the whole situation. Both he and Hartman would still be alive.
3 years ago
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plateshutoverlock
"He said that blanket parties like this were a common occurrence in boot camp because they would send any one they could to Vietnam and Pyle is the kind of person that would get the whole squad killed."
Sounds like Darwin / nature in action. Eliminate the weak for the good of the herd.
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chrismc410
cruz loera Today he wouldn't have gotten past MEPS. They'd have found him unfit and sent him home well before swear-in. If, on the off chance he got past MEPS he'd be going home within a month.
3 years ago
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Harry
Grahame Lamblamb As a former Marine, about 95% of all military recruits are out of shape, socially awkward, etc. Lmao its sad but the military draws in alot of Losers. During a draft Im sure its different, this movie takes place during a War so some of the Marines are tough
2 years ago
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Havock
He probably came from a millitary familly and had someone high settled in the core. He would have ended in logistics after that or somewhere safe.
2 years ago
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Havock
Were you one of these ?
2 years ago
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Ryder Benson
That was part of the Character, he was required to gain 70 Pounds !!!
2 years ago
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Robert
Considering the fact that during the Vietnam War most recruits were drafted rather than willingly enlisted, I'm pretty sure there was no such thing as being discharged.
2 years ago
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Trauma
They didn't give a shit in Vietnam, Back then if you tested positive for drugs, your ass was in the front lines.
2 years ago (edited)
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neubro 144
He would've been discharged. They're probably in need for any man in the frontlines. DoD enacted the Project 100,000 program lowering mental and medical standards during the war to increase manpower. Forrest and Bubba from Forrest Gump would've never be in the Army if not for that.
Pyle did toughen up and caught up after that while losing his sanity.
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2 years ago (edited)
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Baeyens Raphaël
Actually having somebody unfit among the recruits can be useful. Notice how he gets everybody punished for his failures. It builds camaraderie and cooperation among the punished, and roots out the weaklings. That's just another military tactic to train recruits.
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2 years ago
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Taylor Houghton
it was during the draft. jail or enlist. they should have just broke his hand or foot/leg so he would be discharged due to injury and being unfit for service.
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David Pierdomenico
Kubrick was the master of showing us scenes that were both disturbing, but intriguing.
4 years ago
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ihavetubes
what made Pyle snap is that joker hit him too.
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Reda Sounni
His '' OW " rips my heart to pieces only to leave a broken mess on the ground
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Chi Rho
Not every person is meant for the military. That's why a draft is a terrible idea.
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NightIMarEx1
And now Pyle is kingpin see what you guys did
5 years ago
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Tregeta
As much as I hated Pyle this scene always really got to me.
4 years ago
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Charlie Gerhardt
The military refers to them as " blanket parties" and the bar soap feels like a brick; everybody gets one hit.
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Centrist Philosopher
Hard scene to watch.And militaries today still face these sort of situations.
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Peyton Robison
jeez that last guy put some anger in those blows
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David Arango
This actually does happen in the military. It's called a "blanket party." When I was in the military they happened rarely, but still happened. The soap is used simply because it leaves no visable marks. But it does leave big knots under the skin, which are very painful and take a while to heal. Its best to not do anything stupid to attract negative attention to yourself from the drill sergeant. You really don't want to be that guy.
2 years ago (edited)
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Guigley
Pyle is probably the only character I've ever remotely cared about in a Kubrick movie. D'Onofrio was flawless in the role from beginning to end.
5 years ago
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Jumpy Cat
"Hey, guys. I had the craziest dream last night."
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Aivottaja
Joker struck the killing blow to his sanity. He already knew everyone else hated him, but Joker was the only one who could've and should've supported him :(
3 years ago
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TheRealGunfish
When I was in boot camp we talked about doing that to a few but never did it. Don't think I could of done that to anyone and there were some real chewed up dudes in boot camp.
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Alex Rees
I never really got an "anti-military" vibe from the first half of this movie, I more felt like it was conveying the message of how destructive and arduous the basic training process can be, especially for people who were involuntarily drafted into the military.
It has to be a tough process because they're literally turning you into a killing machine (which would involve lots of tough shit to desensitize you before you enter the real battle), and mentally, not everybody can take it (which is generally why you get better results when people sign up voluntarily because they tend to have somewhat of an idea of what they're signing up for and are definitely slightly more mentally prepared).
I know private Pyle is a useless piece of shit, but I can't really blame him. He wasn't meant to be in the military, but that's the hand we was dealt and it only took the first step of the whole ordeal to break him.
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OfficialSaint97
I'm 16 right now, ending my Sophmore year and understand this to a point. Same with a the suicide scene. I was basically Pyle growing up. I was a fat kid who didn't care for school and didn't conform to others ideals. I played football in middle school and got into somewhat better shape than before. But I still went through a lot of bullshit and still do. I only played half of football season this year because I spend 8months doing an advanced powerlifters workout and screwed up my back in so many ways. I was given so much shit and berated by everyone to the point I was ready to give up. But I'm better now and I've passed the older guys in strength and skill by a longshot because I'm smart about it now. But it's still no different at home. My dad is worse than Hartman, to him I'm just a servant to do everything, me and my mom both while he sits on his lazy ass and does nothing. To him I think I'm the disappointment and can't conform to his "standards" like Pyle couldn't for the Marines. Pyle was most likely drafted and if he wasn't he still shouldn't have been allowed into basic or should've been sent home before something the suicide scene and the blanket party could've been avoided. All in all and to sum things up. People are dicks. People like the ones in this platoon can suck it up. I know it's it's movie but I'm sure there's a few who act just like this. Instead of beating him try and help more, there's consequences and punishments in the end. People are just to fucking ignorant and stupid
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leonthesleepy
Even after being desensitized by so many gory modern movies, this scene always gets to me for some reason.
3 years ago
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GoldenOpportunity
His cries really killed me. It made me feel so bad
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Nicholas R
no one deserves treatment like this. this is sick.
3 years ago
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