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ISayWeOnlyToBePolite 2 days ago
The problem is that Facebook has monopoly power in serving as a forum for public discussion.
Discussing this on a public forum that isn't facebook makes your argument rather blunt.
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joe_frisch 2 days ago
Slashdot is very popular with nerds like me, but it has nothing like the number or users that facebook has
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ISayWeOnlyToBePolite 2 days ago
Having a large number of users does not make facebook have monopoly power as a forum for public discussion.
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joe_frisch a day ago
Doesn't it? It seems that a discussion forum has a lot of similarities to a phone company in the old days where the company owned the lines: if the great majority of customers are using one service, that makes that service more valuable to new customers. It seems like a classic "natural monopoly"
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ISayWeOnlyToBePolite a day ago
They don't own the lines, that's your internet provider, I could name several large competitors to facebook not to mention how easy it is to set up your own forum. If you're trying to compare facebooks position to the at&t case, that's going to be quite the struggle. If you believe that facebook is in violation of any laws I do encourage you to report them to the proper authorities and I wish you good luck with that (I'm not a fan, I don't have an account there).
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joe_frisch a day ago
Not violating any laws as far as I know.
What alternate social / political platforms do you know of with similar viewership? If I want to discuss politics with friends and acquaintances, there is a high probability that they are on FB. For which other platform is that true?
The phone company used to own the lines - thats why they were broken up to get the situation we have today. Today I can choose my phone company, they all give me the same access to other people.
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ISayWeOnlyToBePolite a day ago
I can't speak for your friends but twitter, youtube, tiktok, wechat are large multi billion dollar competitors that come to mind. I don't see how the situation is comparable to at&t, as you state you couldn't make a call because without going thru them because they owned the line and if I remember correctly bell was broken into seven regional companies as a result. If you wanted to get in touch with someone the alternative was sending them a physical mail thru the post or going to their house, the options today are too many to list but you could call them or send am email to name two. I think it's important to keep the issue of contacting a friend separate to viewership, the first would be problematic (as in at&t) if your assertions was true but to me it quite clearly isn't, for viewership I don't see how that's an issue. I'm an oldschool avid print reader and the fact that my or your opinions had a very slim chance of getting published in the dominant newspapers isn't as important as their editorial freedom to print whatever they chose. I just don't see how a certain exposure could be a right that outweighs concepts like freedom of the press and freedom of association.
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phantomfive 2 days ago
It's OK for corporations to censor. They are entitled to do that.
Note: It is legal for corporations to censor, which is different than being moral or ok. It is not OK for corporations to censor.
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dryeo a day ago
Depends on what they censor. A cupcake forum censoring stuff way off topic like anti-vaccine stuff seems fine to me. Same with having a clear policy of no swearing and censoring those posts containing swear words.
I visit some forums where being an asshole is banned. Over the years I only remember one person being banned with his posts deleted. I do remember the odd other thread being moved to the off topic area.
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squiggleslash 2 days ago

I notice you haven't put up a website supporting my political opinions. Perhaps you should put your money where your mouth is and start funding the dissemination of things I believe in and you oppose? I demand you RIGHT NOW open an AWS account and start hosting pages supporting everyone I believe in.

Just like you think Facebook should have to do.
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Malays2 bowman a few seconds ago
Facebook's interface is such a mess, it's very hard to get to whatever material they are trying to slop the masses with except by chance. Maybe the kids have it down to an art, but my 44 year old mind has trouble with it

  I never thought I would be saying something like this, being a programner scince the mid 1980s and conquering countless seemingly insurmountable problems. :[
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