The real problem with obesity

Ilya Shambat <[email protected]> Sun, 22 Oct 2023 22:51:51 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups alt.angst
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When I was writing on the Internet about undesirability of obesity, people =
were accusing me of thinking with my penis and they were accusing me of bei=
ng a sham.

There are however greater problems with obesity than its unsightliness. Pro=
bably the biggest one is that it is overconsumption of resources. Overconsu=
mption to the point that it is no longer even good for the person doing it.=
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It=E2=80=99s like driving a Hummer or having a giant house. In all cases, r=
esources are being overconsumed. And that is a much greater problem than ob=
esity being unpleasant to behold.

Now there are some people who appear to be genetically predisposed to obesi=
ty. I don=E2=80=99t hate such people; I feel sorry for them.  Having been h=
ormonally delayed as a teen, I know what it=E2=80=99s like to be unattracti=
ve at critical age. These people are right to confront mistreatment against=
 them. However I don=E2=80=99t think that even they actually want to be obe=
se. They don=E2=80=99t want to be mistreated for being obese, but I don=E2=
=80=99t think that obesity is actually their ideal. Most of them would be h=
appy to lose the weight if it was done in a way that they can handle.

I=E2=80=99ve been with women who were overweight, and I didn=E2=80=99t coun=
t it against them. One of my favorite memories is having sex outside a Cath=
olic convent with a woman who was heavy and wheelchair-bound. I didn=E2=80=
=99t count her being overweight against her. She had an excuse. She was whe=
elchair-bound. And yes, she was quite good.

The bigger problem is that there are now many people who are obese who have=
n=E2=80=99t been obese before. Right now obesity is no longer limited to pe=
ople who are genetically predisposed to it. There are all sorts of people w=
ho have been healthy before who are not healthy now. That is a bad demograp=
hic trend. So that while it is right to confront abuse against such people,=
 it is also important to look at it from societal perspective and see what =
is good for the world and what is not.

Once again, the biggest problem here is not aesthetic, it is ethical. We ar=
e dealing with overconsumption of resources. Now the people who are obese a=
re not generally the same people as ones who drive Hummers and have huge ho=
uses; but both are guilty of the same wrong. They are overconsuming resourc=
es. And it is done in such a way that it is no longer even good for them.

The overweight have the right to defend themselves from people who would di=
scriminate against them. However I don=E2=80=99t think that these people ac=
tually want to be overweight. They will be interested in slimming down if t=
hey found the right way to do it.

I had a conversation about this with a psychologist, where I asked if the s=
olution to this problem was accepting that the person is fat or encouraging=
 the person to get healthy. He said that there was a need for both. Don=E2=
=80=99t mistreat the person but guide them correctly. Offer them acceptance=
 as people. And from that situation influence the person correctly to resul=
t in the person doing the right thing.